12 Replies Latest reply: Jan 3, 2012 8:59 PM by iefbr14 RSS

Rome Grand Flora Marriott

jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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Professor,

 

Thanks to you and other MR, I have booked my stay next Christmas Season!

 

Using 200,000 points and requested a bathtub as well!

 

Have time, but will make arrangements for transportation.  (Sorry about the "Dumb" question concerning the airport, I thought the airport was were the Cruise Ships land, and that is a long way away.) It's only 20 miles!

 

Tommy, In Omaha, did a great job in getting me taken care of.  I know it's a way to go till next December, but you can never be "Too early", when using points for a special trip!  Now I just hope Delta can come thru for me!

 

Thanks again!

 

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  • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
    profchiara Alumni Steward Silver 3 Reviews
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    Hi Jerry,

    Congrats!  You're thinking of Civitivecchia, which is much farther out that FCO. Metered cabs from FCO charge (at last notice 40 euros and cannot charge more). But you can also arrange ahead for about 65 euros to have a special pickup.  I think all the Flora has is bathtubs, so that should not be a problem.  Before you go, I can fill you in on must see churches (many of which are true art museums in themselves) and other sites.

     

    I think you'll find it a much different city than on your first stay, as I certainly have over the years.
    Ciao, ProfC

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    • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
      jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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      Professor,

       

      Thanks for clarifying this.

       

      Sometimes too much travel gets one confused!  This is much easier than I anticipated.

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  • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
    newhiltonmembr Platinum 3 Reviews
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    Hi Jerry,

     

    You'll have a great time!  Here's my Rome info from my trip a couple of years ago.

     

    General Info:
    Monday - many museums closed!  Plan!
    Roma PassTo avoid lines at Colosseum, Forum, etc. For best value, use at Colosseum and Borghese Gallery.  Valid for 3 days (public transportation, free/discounted admissions (1st 2 sites are free, rest are discounted and skip lines)Buy at a less crowded site€ 20
    Open during siesta:St. Peter's, Colosseum, Forum, Capitoline Museum and Natl Museum of Rome
    Lots of con artists, thieving childrens' gangs, pickpockets!
    Tues - pick up Vatican General Audience TicketTuesday October 13 at the visitors' reception desk inside the Church of Santa Susanna between 5:00 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.Via Venti Septembre 15 (1 block north of Piazza della Republica, a major bus/metro stop), Corner of Via Venti Septembre and Largo Santa Susanna at top of Via Barberini/Via Bissolati€ 10 donation requested
    Papal Audience - Wednesday 10amBe there at 8:30am
    Scavi Tour - Wednesday, 3:00pmBe there 10 minutes before!
    Vatican Museum - Thursday, 2pm.Be there at 1:45pmTicket booked online, show receipt
    € 18
    Airport Shuttlewww.airportshuttle.itWill pick up at hotel, 3 hrs before flight25 Euros
    Rome Shuttle to AirportCost?
    Rome Cabs to Airportwww.romecabs.com€ 45
    Launderettes (Lavandarias)Available on Via Montebello, Via M. D'Azeglio, Via Dei Marsi, and Via Milazzo
    Supermarket - by the hotel metro station
    Sites:
    Before Dawn - go to Janiculumn Hill to catch sun rise - see Vatican , Borghese Gardens, Pantheon, Colosseum, Castel Sant' Angelo and Camidolgio all conme to klighr in one breathtakeing cityscapeHA!  Think this will really happen????
    Roman Forum Walk
    Dolce Vita Walk
    Night Walk Across Rome
    Ancient Rome Use Roma Pass -buy in advance
    R. Steve's audiopod
    Metro to Cavour stop
    St. Peter in Chains Church (San Pietro in Vincoli)Michelangelo statue, chains under high altar, Moses status (up a hill from Forum and Colosseum)free, daily 8am - 12:30pm and 3pm - 7pm
    15 min uphill from Colosseum or shorter walk from Cavour metro stop
    Colosseum (Colosseo)Need to wait in security line but not in ticket line, stay to the left and muscle past ticket-buying crowd to go directly to turnstileTil 6:15pm
    Use Roma Pass
    Buy Roma Pass at Palentine Hill
    Nero's Domus Aurea (Golden House)Near Colosseum, recently opened, entrance off Via Labacana in Pareo OppioNear Colosseum, underneath one of the Palantine HillsDaily 9 - 8pm, Tour required
    Closed Tuesday
    Visits: 9:20, 10:40, 12:00; 3pm, 4:20pm, 5:40pm
    10 Euros tour, 6.50 regular visit
    Arch of Constantine
    Palantine Hill (Monte Palatine), same ticket as Colosseum, great view!

     

    Also, see House of Augustus
    Try to get ticket to House of Griffins on Palantine Hill (3 stories underground, recently opened
    hill above Forum, huts of Romulus & Remus, Imperial Palace, House of Livia & Augustus, view of Circus MaximusUse Roma Pass
    Roman Forum (Foro Romano)

     

    Also, check out Temple of Vestal Virgins in Forum area (girls as young as 6 yrs. Old) mission was to keep the sacred fire of Rome burning

     

    From Forum, pop out the side gate and visit charming medieval chruch Santi Cosma e Damiano - 6th C mosiacs (Via dei Fori Imperiali 1)
    open til 1 hr before sunset
    Use Roma Pass (same admission as Colosseum)
    Mamertine Prisonworth a look - once held bodies of Peter and Paul.
    Capital Hill Area and SquareMichelangelo designed square, Palazzo dei Conservatori - use public entrance for non-museum visitors off Piazza Caffarelli for 2nd floor view of Rome from Caffe Capitolino - stunning!!!
    Palazzo Nuovo2 must see statues - Dying Gaul and Capitoline Venus (1st floor)
    Rome from the SkyElevator located near top of Victor Emmanual next to café.  To rooftop for best view of Rome (better than St. Peters), go in late afternoonTil 6:30 in Oct.
    €7
    Follow signs to ascensori panoramici or shortcut from Capitol Hill
    Pantheon Neighborhood Heart of Rome
    Piazza Navona Bernini's Fountain dei Quatro Fiumi
    PantheonMon - Sat 8:30 - 7:30pm
    free
    Church of San Luigi del Francesichapel by Caravegregeniofree
    Santa Maria sopra Minervaonly Gothic cathedral in Rome
    Church of San Ignaziobaroque, see multi-dimensional painting!
    Trevi Fountainsee it at night!!!!!
    Near TerminiSanta Maria degli Angeli
    Santa Susanna ChurchVia XX Septembre 15 (meto stop: Republica)PICK UP VATICAN TICKET - TUES
    Pilgrim's RomeLooks close to Colosseum… are they?
    Church of San Giovanni in Lanteranobuilt by Constantine, the 'mother' of all churches in Rome!Daily 8:30am - 6:30pm
    free
    Stairs climbed by JesusTil Noon and 3-6pm
    Church of San Clementefrescoes by Masolinofree
    Mon-Sat, 9am - 12:30pm and 3 - 6pm
    Via di San Giovannin in Laterano
    Descend to:
    1.  Ruins of earlier church and
    2.  Eerie remains of pagan temple to Mithras
    € 5
    Santa Maria MaggioreBest surviving mosaics in nave, 1000 yrs. Older than St. Peter's, built after Empire collapsed. A purported fragment of Jesus' crib, tallest bell tower in RomeDaily 8am - 6:30pm
    Free
    Piazza Santa Maria Maggiore
    North RomeVilla Borghese GardensBest entrance is at Via Veneto,
    Cafes, foundatins, statues, lake, museums, take a boat ride?
    Borghese GalleryPlush!  Former cardinal's mansion.
    Bernini's David, Apollo chasing Daphne (the best!), start at top floor and walk down
    Make Reservation
    € 8.50 (Roma Pass)
    (includes €2 reservation fee??)
    Closed Monday
    Tues - Sun, 9am - 7pm
    www.galleriabofghese.it
    www.ticketeria.it or www.pierreci.it
    Entry times: 9, 11, 1, 3, and 5pm
    Cappuccin CryptBelow Church of Santa Maria de Immaculata Concezione on Via Veneto (up from Piazza Barberini).
    Bones of 4000+ monks in basement, soil from Jersualem 400 yrs ago.
    Donation requested
    Daily 9 - 12pm and 3 - 6pm
    Piazza del PopolaArt-filled churches, North entrance to Rome, Starting point of evening passeggiata, 10 story obelisk from Eygpt's Rames II temple
    Santa Maria del PopolaOne of most overlooked churches - 2 chapels, great art, façade built from scavenged Colosseum travertine, Chigi Chapel (2nd on left) designed by RaphaelMon - Sat
    7am - Noon and 4pm - 7pm
    Spanish Steps AreaSpanish Steps
    Ara Pacis (Altar of Peace) - 9th C BC altar where Augustus led sacrificial slaughter€ 6.50 or look in thru window for free
    Tues - Sun
    9am - 7pm
    Long block west of Via del Corso on Via di Ara Pacis (east bank of Tiber)
    Catacombs of PriscillaSmaller, lesser known instead of going to Appian Way, less touristy, better choice than other catacombs€ 6
    Tues - Sun
    8:30 - Noon and 2:30 - 5pm
    Via Salaria 430 (northeast of Termini)
    Vatican CityTI to left of basilica
    Vatican Museum3-4 hours to enjoy, 2 hrs for quick visit
    Best entry 12:30 or later
    Use R. Steve podcast (don't rent audioguide as returning it will screw up entrance to St. Peters)
    €14
    Cipro is closest metro
    Mon - Sat
    8:30 - 5:30, last entry 4pm
    See Pinoteca early or will miss it and have to backtrack
    St. Peter's BasilicaFrom Sistine Chapel, exit thru Group Tour exit to go into St. Peter's directlyDaily
    7am - 6pm (Light at 5pm is good!)
    € 7 - elevator
    Don't miss the Pieta!
    Elevator to roof top of nave for commanding view (don't do steps to dome!) and view of church interior
    Blessed Sacrament Chapel
    Pope's tombs
    Wednesday Papal Audience - 10am
    Scavi Tour - 3pm
    PICK UP VATICAN TICKET - TUES at Santa Susanna
    ThursdayVatican Museum and Sistine Chapel - 2pm
    Near Vatican CityCastel Sant' Angelo - see at night also!Hadrian's tomb, castle, prison€ 5
    Tues - Sun
    9am - 7:30pm (closed Mon)
    Ponte Sant' Angelobridge to castle, 3 middle arches are Roman originals
    Trastevere (tras-TAY-veh-rey: across (tras) the Tiber (tevere)Best look at medieval village Rome
    Wander around
    See Rick's pg. 678 for transportation to/from
    Santa Maria in Trastevere Churchmade a basilica in 4th C, most from 12th CDaily 7am - 9pm
    Piazza di Santa Maria
    Villa Farnesiniearly 1500's, richest Sienna banker's loggia, orchards,flowerbeds€ 5
    9am - 4pm
    Via della Lurgara
    Gianicolo Hill Viewpointpark atop hill w/ outstanding views, start at Trastever's Piazza di San Cosimato, follow Via Luciano Manara to Via Garibaldi uphill to St. Peter's in Montorio
    Jewish Quarter
    St Paul outside the Walls ( Basilica di San Paolo fuori le Mura)one of the 5 major basilicas in Rone, origianlly founded by Constantine in 4th C.  Is burial place of St. Paul the Apostle Via Ostiense 186 (metro: Basilica San Paolo)Basilica: daily 7am-6:30pm
    Cloister daily 9am-1pm and 3-6pm
    Bacca della Verita (Mouth of Truth)stick hand in!  Ancient marble mask Church Santa Maria in Cosmedin
    Aqueducts on Viale Appio Claudio
    Shopping:
    Campo de Fiorimorning market
    Spazio SettePremier homeware storeVia dei Barberi 7 off Largo de Torre Argentina
    Piazza San Cosimato Market in TrastevereVia Natale del Grande
    Via Baccina marketOpen 7am - 7pm
    Closed Sunday
    Dining:
    Colline EmilianeAbout the best pasta in Rome, near Via Veneto, reservation highly recommendedVia Avignonesi 22 (off Off Piazza Barberini)
    Near hotel
    Tues-Sun 12:45-2:45pm; Tues-Sat 7:45-10:45pm
    Tel: 06-4817538
    Colline EmilianeVeal in cream sauce over mashed potatoes, moderate to expensive Via Avignonesi 22Closed on Fridays or see above?????
    Tel: 06 871538
    Reservation required
    Restaurante MontevecchioA small, intimate place tucked away in a late-medieval neighborhood. Scrumptious antipasti and a wonderful spaghetti with a lobster and tomato sauce. High end, but, believe me, worth it.Piazza Montevecchio 22A
    From the north end of Navona, walk down Via Coronari about 100 meters. Via Montevecchio is on your left. There is usually a planter in the middle of the alley. Turn left, walk a block, you can't miss it.
    Tel. 06 686 13 19
    Armando al PantheonVery cute, good menu, highly recommendedSalita del Crescenzi, 31 (by Pantheon, street on right of Pantheon past newpaper kiosk)Tel: 06 688803034
    Noon - 3pm and 7 - 11pm
    Navona NotteGood menu, not bad looking, pasta and pizza look goodVia del Teatro Pace, 44 - 00186 Roma (couple blocks west of Plaza Navona)Noon - 11pm , accepts credit cards
    La BruschettaWhat a great, fun place! Near hotel.  Can be a ripoff per one review.  Great Caprese salad and Margherita pizza.  For good opera, walk downstairs and listen to the amateur singers.Via Sardenga 39   (Walk down Via Veneto from the Grand Hotel Flora. Via Sardenga is the first or second cross street. You can see the sign from Via Veneto.)Tel. 06 42 01 37 21
    Tullioone of the best restaurants in Rome specialising in Tuscan cuisine. The food is excellent (you'Il pay around 40.00 euro for a meal), the place is usually packed and the service fast and efficientVia San Nicola da Tolentino, 26
    Off Piazza Barberini (near hotel)
    closed on Sunday
    ph. 06 475 85 64
    Al 34combines Roman cooking with regional dishes from throughout Italy. It is consistently good and very popular so booking is essentialVia Mario de' Fiori, 34
    Near hotel
    closed on Monday. A full meal will cost around 25/30.00 euro
    All credit cards.
    Da BaffettoRome's most popular pizzeria, not far from Piazza NavonaVia del Governo Vecchio 114No lunch, no credit cards
    PerluigiGood reviews, 1/2 hour walk southwest toward Tiber from hotel
    Giggetto
    DitiramboPiazza Carcelleria
    Dar Poeta
    Antic Arco
    Il PalazzettoGnocchi w/ sausage & asparagus, near Piazza di Spagna (not far from hotel?)Vicolo del Bottino 8, SpagnaTel: 06 6990878
    Antico Ristorante del GiglioSpecializes in classic Roman and Lazio cooking, moderate cost (not far from hotel?)Via Torino 137 (located between main train station (Termini) and the Rome Opera House)Tel: 06 4881606
    Da GiovanniAgnolotti (pasta stuffed with veal) is the best, cannelonni, very good fishVia Antonio Salandra 1 (corner of Via XX Settembre)Tel: 06485950
    George'sPiano bar, elegant and expensive restaurantVia Marche 7 (on street behind the Excelsior Hotel on Via Veneto)Tel: 06 42084575
    Hosteria Guilio Fabulous pastas, homemade ravioli and gnocchi, veal.  Moderate (close to hotel?)Via della Barchetta 19Tel: 06 68806466
    Hosteria Da NeroneGood for lunch after touring Foru or Colliseum.  Roast rabbit, Homemade ravioli, fettuccine alla NeroneVia delle Terme di Tito 96Tel: 06 4817952
    La CarbonerraPiazza dei Fiori
    Café ManciniCute, menu looks goodVia Metastassio 21 (corner of P. di FirenzClosed on Sunday
    tel 39 066872051
    Paris in TrastevereP. S. Calisto 7aTel 39 065815378
    Da ToscanaGrilled veal, raviolini q/ ricotta & trufflesNorth side of city€ 40 person
    Ai Tre ScaliniBeautiful room, great service and food ,reasonable pricesNear Colosseum
    Largo del PallaroAll inclusive w/ wine too!  Good value, lovingly preparedLargo del Pallaro 15tel 06 68801488
    Les Etoilesrooftop dining, great night viewsin Hotel Alante Star
    Il FornoPizza on Piazza NavonaCampo D'Fiore
    La Cicala e la FormicaLunch - € 10 menu w/ choice of 1st and 2nd coursesVia Leonina 17 (metro line B to Cavour stop by Colosseum and Fiori Imperiali)Closed Sunday
    Lunch 12 - 3pm
    Dinner 6:45pm - 11pm
    Old Bridgebest gelato, directly across from Vatican Museum
    The Meetingnear American Embassy
    La Fraschettain Trastevere, bit pricey but worth it. Cute looking, ok menuVia San Francesco a Ripa 134Tel: 06 5816012
    Antica RomaVeal saltimbocca, fried apps, pasta all'amatriciana.  In Monteverde Vecchio beyond TrastevereVia Alberto Mario 17Tel 06 5816809
    Enteco CorsiOne of best and least pretentious to eat lunch.  Local favorite.  Wonderful gnocchi and great saltimbocca alla romana.  Go to back and turn right to the wine store for a rew extra tables and more charming atmosphere.Via del Gesu 88Tel 06 6790821
    No credit cards
    Lunch only
    Il Cantuccioone of my best meals, expensive but not as much as Via Veneto Piazza Navona
    Maccheroni or Da Francescognocchi   near Piazza Navon
    Vecchia RomaVery comfortable, pleasant staff, delicious carbonarra and saltimbocca alla romana, pricey and worth it, not cheap but not outrageously expensive.  Well positioned to ForumPiazza Campitelli 18 (ghetto area near forum)tel 06 6864604
    D'Augustoin Trastevere,  small place, locals, short walk fron Villa di Oglio hotelin Piazza Santa Maria
    La Maddalenablick from Pantheon
    Cul De Sacbest meal we had, not at all touristy, great selectionPiazza di Pasquino
    Nightlife:
    Shamrock Irish PubCeltic and Irish musicVia Capo d'Africa 26/d
    Charity CaféJazz live musicVia Panisperna 68
    Enoteccas
    GelatoSan Crispino

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    • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
      pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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      That's an amazing amount of information.  Thank you.  I'll be staying at the Grand Flora next June.  Really looking forward to it.  Have stayed there before in 2005.  Very beautiful hotel in a great location.

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        iefbr14 Platinum 4 Reviews
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        I've never stayed at the Grand Flora, but I did stay at the Rome Park Marriott. It's about 30 minutes into the city using their shuttle. It used to be free, now I think it's 3EUR each way. It's way convenient because it's away from Rome itself and its traffic. And is close to FCO for the escape out of there. I stayed in 2007 and liked the place so much I went back in 2010, not even wanting to try Grand Flora.

         

        The ceiling is painted and it must be a 40 or 50 ft high dome. Breakfast in 2007 was much better than in 2010; cutbacks are apparent. But in 2010, the CL on -1 (take stairs down one level from the lobby) is very, very nice. This may be true for all Italy hotels- my internet access was issued to me and I was advised not to share the logon with anyone else; if some kind of cybercrime or porn stuff is traced back to that ID, it would be me that the government would go after.

         

        In 2010, I got stuck in town with some sort of Occupy type protest of the government. Fortunately, all I lost was the day pass on the tour bus. I found a path outside of the occupy zone, then used a taxi to get back to Rome Park. If you have any affiliation with Toyota, you might be eligible for some good rates, as Toyota Italy's HQ shares the fenceline. I stayed using points. I don't remember the category, but I felt the hotel wasat least worth one or two cats more.

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    • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
      jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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      newhilton,

       

      Thanks for all of this!

       

      I am only going to be there for one week, but this is so special!

       

      Hope I can return the favor.

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    • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
      profchiara Alumni Steward Silver 3 Reviews
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      Great info for everyone, NewHilton!  My personal favorite churches in Rome are the basilica of San Clemente, which you can see down to its Mithraic foundations.  It's also got a very peculiar ancient style if you go there for a mass.  If you are among the first few dozen people to arrive, you are seated in what would be the choir area of an Anglican church.  All of the readings and homily are then done from one of the two sides.  Then the priest returns to the altar area (under an incredible mosaic of the flock of sheep) to prepare the mass.  I've never seen it done like that anywhere else.

       

      My absolute favorite church in Rome is Santa Maria in Trastevere, which you mention. The mosaics are incredible. Not far away in the same area of the city and on the island in the Tiber are two of Rome's oldest churches named after early martyrs, Santa Cecilia and San Bartolomeo, also worth a visit.  And you are right near the Janiculum Hill, which if you can manage it is amazing (I don't know if I could these days). That area of the city, still being its medieval heart, is very compact, so you're able to do a good deal in a morning, with resplendent views of the other side of the Tiber and up toward the Vatican. I usually walk to the Vatican from Trastevere, which is not a short walk, but is flat.

       

      Should you run out of things to do, a trip to Tivoli and Hadrian's Villa is well worth it.  A little further out, Viterbo and Orvieto beckon.


      Enjoy your preparations, Jerry!

      ProfChiara

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      • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
        profchiara Alumni Steward Silver 3 Reviews
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        One more thing that is lovely about Rome in December.  Before you get to the Vatican if you cross from the other side of the Tiber, near the Castel Sant'Angelo, they create a skating rink.  Even though it's usually quite mild (at least for a Mainer, or someone used to northern Europe) it makes the whole scene quite beautiful.

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          jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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          Professor,

           

          Thanks!

           

          Will take it in.  Got a lot of trips booked for 2012 and this one will be a wonderful one.

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          • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
            lakeshore Platinum 11 Reviews
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            You will have a wonderful time! And, I am so happy to see that your fears about travel from airport to the Marriott are unfounded. We had no problems(hired a drive from trip advisor, which was flawless...unfortunately, I cannot remember his name...sorry). A cab will be sufficient!

            Enjoy!

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            • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
              profchiara Alumni Steward Silver 3 Reviews
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              I agree with Lakeshore.  Cabs (at least from the airport) are one of the few regulated things that really are regulated in Italy! An online guide when it gets closer to the time will tell you which color cabs to look for to make sure they're licensed (and thus don't take you for a ride).  But it's usually about half the price of a private car because it's not based on traffic jams or kilometers covered.  Plus Italian cab drivers are a jovial bunch and even trying a word or so of Italian on them will get you a virtual tour of the city as you're going into the city itself.  I've found several who have been Italian-Americans who moved back to the Old Country and speak perfect English.

              Happy New Year!

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  • Re: Rome Grand Flora Marriott
    jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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    Thanks to both of you!

     

    Will really look forward to this trip and the "Re-Visit" of Rome!

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