12 Replies Latest reply: Nov 30, 2011 1:18 AM by anadyr RSS

Prop 65

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Here in sometimes sunny CA we have a requirement that every business post a sign, pursuant to Proposition 65, that chemicals may be present in that business that can cause cancer and other serious health problems.

 

I respectfully suggest that, given the way in which smoking is allowed to be near entrances and poolside and on balconies at some hotels, we have this sign posted at every one of them.  It's posted everywhere you go here, even at the supermarkets, and while it tends to be ignored it might as well be there for those who do see it.  Just my opinion.

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  • Re: Prop 65
    jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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    Isn't there a song that say's something like, "Signs, Signs, everywhere Signs"?

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    • Re: Prop 65
      tryt53 Alumni Steward Platinum 5 Reviews
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      Five Man Electrical Band?  Do I get bonus points, or was that a rhetorical question?

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    nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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    Steppingstones - sounds like a reasonable, in fact a very good, idea to me.

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    • Re: Prop 65
      Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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      Actually when I saw it the first time I asked an was told it was a law even if the place was nonsmoking!

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  • Re: Prop 65
    jasper100 Alumni Steward Platinum 10 Reviews
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    Only in California!!!!

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    • Re: Prop 65
      Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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      Like the bad weather it moves East

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  • Re: Prop 65
    jkernitzki Platinum 2 Reviews
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    Assuming you believe that anything actually "causes" cancer, than everything does, given sufficiently ridiculous dosages of the substance in question. Therefore, everything should be so labeled. Just another example of cherry-picked studies paired with a particular agenda, resulting in no benefit to the public and an economic drain on us all.

     

    The net and sole effect would be another buck or so added to everyone's nightly room bill, nothing more nor less, all in the name of meeting "regulatory requirements".

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    • Re: Prop 65
      Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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      Huh?  Posters are free

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      • Re: Prop 65
        jkernitzki Platinum 2 Reviews
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        Nothing is "free". There is a cost to everything, and all is ultimately borne by the end consumer.

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        • Re: Prop 65
          Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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          Perhaps but my point was that the signage is free ans often ignored

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          • Re: Prop 65
            jkernitzki Platinum 2 Reviews
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            I got that; my point is that the signage isn't free. There's production costs, someone has to post it, maintain it, remount it after it's become worn or unreadable. Any added task or other regulatory requirement has an actual, measurable cost to it. Additionally, what is gained by meeting that (singularly useless) regulation? Will even a single life be saved or possibly placed at lesser risk? As has been noted before, nobody reads that sign since it's now posted in nearly every commercial establishment in the entire state.

             

            I'd rather that added cost to my foliio be used towards a Marriott-sponsored smoking cessation program. Not that it matters, as Prop 65 includes the bar, restaurant, pool, etc., if you consider all the even theoretically carcinogenic chemicals in a hotel.  Did they just repaint or recarpet the hallways? We need a sign (I'm not being facetious).

             

            There has to be a point where we say enough is enough, where we take responsibility for ourselves, and we recognize that life has risks that may not be able to be mitigated (or legislated) to our personal satisfaction. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

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            • Re: Prop 65
              Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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              Agreed, but you see the sign at toy stores, hardware store, ff restaurants, you name it. Everywhere except Indian Casinos where smoking is encouraged and ;lauded!

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