I see if you go to the Marriott Rewards page and the "How You Earn" page, it has all the brands listed in the graphics to the left side. If you hover over any of the brand names (such as Marriott, Courtyard, Edition...) each tells you a little different about what points you get, and some of the sites say "Earn ... Points on Room Rate Only" (like Fairfield or Courtyard), but others (such as the Marriott, JW Marriott, and Ritz just say that you earn the 10 points, and don't say "On Room Rate Only". Interesting also, is that the only higher brand that they show there, that points count only towards room rate, is the Edition.
I created a post a while back that talks about this very topic. See How Do Mr Points Get Credited?
I guess we can call the program 'Marriott Selective Rewards' since there seems to be more and more picking and choosing that pares down the benefits we receive. This policy makes zero sense to me. If I buy something at their inflated price, why shouldn't there be a credit for it? It's not like they aren't making money. Especially Courtyards as there are some CY hotels that have rates higher then the marriott or Renaissance in some places/points in time.
I just found this out too the hard way...I can't believe I've dined in so many times at the Courtyard Bistros (unimpressive food) thinking this was the smart thing to do in order to rack up points. I actually feel violated and punished which is unfortunate because I learned my lesson and will only dine in at full-service marriotts in the future.
It's been well-known for a while that CYs neither provide breakfast during the week and no points for incidentals. I can't think in what universe the latter makes sense. Thus many Marriott elites will not book CYs at all or do so only for a single-night stay when they know they won't be eating at the property. If there were points on incidental spends, Marriott would probably garner some additional revenue. But CYs perform well as they are for Marriott so I doubt they're going to change either policy.
I did not know this. So no points for incidentals, and half points at Residence Inn and Town Place Suites, right? Any other restrictions on earning points?
I think the last time I stayed at a CY, I booked the breakfast rate. It was only $5 or $10 more, and the breakfast was very good, so it was a deal. I'm pretty sure I got full points for the stay, because the breakfast was built into the room rate.
Yes, when anything is built into the Room rate, you get the full credit. They are definitely losing potential revenue from MR members who are aware of these policies. I get some relief in that I don't charge Breakfast to the room. instead i use my MR card, and thus obtain some points for the meal.
pluto77, the way you booked it isthe way to ensure that you get the full 10 points/dollar for what you spent. But if, for example, you had paid for the breakfast separately, there would have been no points earned for that. I also am not sure what the rationale is for this, but fortunately I don't stay at a lot of CY so no effect here.
Yes, you will get the points on your Chase Marriott Rewards card for all you have spent. The problem is (unlike, strangely, Fairfield Inns) you will only get 10x the dollars spent on your room, and nothing else. This is why many of us are avoiding or more seriously boycotting Courtyards. I found that out the hard way, assuming my 10x, and had a very expensive dinner that ended up not counting at all. So except for a few locations in Europe, I will NEVER stay at a Courtyard, their advertising notwithstanding.
I can understand why you feel that way. I have just not eaten breakfast at them anymore, but have continued to stay there, because of the 3 I have stayed at this year (which were all 3 used with cashing in rewards nights), all 3 upgraded us to a suite, and the last one (a couple of weeks ago) in Federal Way, WA, gave us the nicest checkin and recognition of all the ones I've stayed at. They even had a full sized gold box of See's Chocolates that they gave us at the front desk, in addition to our checkin gift. As much as I do wish they had breakfast too, the ones I've stayed in the last year have been great in accommodations, service, and recognition. I don't know if this is because they have all been in the greater Seattle area, or what, so I am interested in how others are finding them, in other locations.
I too found this out the hard way when I was really starting to rack up some Marriott points. I now no longer ever stay at Courtyards (except the one in Rome, where you get free breakfasts etc.) and if I have to in the future I will never, ever eat there or buy anything from them. I fail to understand why the 'lowlier' Fairfield Inns (in my experience) give more benefits than Courtyards.