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Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans

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Hey All,             

Your comments please…..I just discovered that no NATIONAL hotel chain offers a discount to SERVICE CONECTED DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS.  What do you think?   I would be very pleased to see Marriott offer a program to our disable veterans that is at least as good as it offers to a regular government employee.  I would even be willing to help by donating some of my points.   Again what do you think?  Let’s call Mr. Marriott and politely ask that the idea be considered / investigated.   Thanks

 

 



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  • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
    versel Alumni Steward Platinum
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    Good idea. I would suggest eliminating the disabled requirement as well. Discount to any veteran. Or some other perk like complimentary Silver status.

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  • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
    Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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    Great idea!

     

    Did you notice in the fine print on the government/military rate that it's only for "active duty" military personnel?

     

    Some Insiders have spent a career in the military and I for one think that a career military person now retired deserves all the credit of an active duty service person.

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  • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
    nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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    THank You, SteppingStones.

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  • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
    Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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    NuHusker--our thanks for all those years of service!

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    jaybirdjd Gold 8 Reviews
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    I would not only like to see a military/gov't rate for service-connected disabled veterans, but to the dependants of the active duty military. This chain give a gov't rate to Canadian military, and not to the American family members or the disabled vet...REALLY? My husband has 22 years of service and I am a service-connected disabled veteran and we could certainly appreciate any help that we can get.

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    • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
      Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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      this does not seem fair. Defendants have as much right as active-duty military personnel to spend the night at a Marriott hotel at a discount rate where possible

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      • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
        nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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        steppingstones -- You meant dependents didn't you??

         

        The thing I don't get is why foreign military gets special rates, but our own family members don't...???

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        • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
          Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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          yes I did I just had cataract surgery and am doing this with one eye and using voice recognition software and apparently mumbling. I did mean dependence sorry

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          • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
            nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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            Steppingstones -- glad the surgery is over and praying for a quick recovery. 

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            • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
              Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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              thank you very much. Dragon speak and I should become great friends for the next day or so

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          • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
            tryt53 Alumni Steward Platinum 5 Reviews
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            SS,

            Glad to hear the surgery went well, and hope you have a quick recovery.  I noticed a lot of difference quickly when I had my one eye done.  Hope you do too!

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            • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
              Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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              thank you. I get the patch off tomorrow. Next Thursday the 29th I have the other I done. After a few more days of recovery I hope to be able to see as well as I used to or at least drive at night without endangering myself or others. Thanks for your concern.

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      • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
        jaybirdjd Gold 8 Reviews
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        The VA hospital issues an ID card to disabled Vets who receive treatment at their facility.

         

        @Pluto, I agree there does need to be a line drawn with regard to discounted services. I think the line should start with extending services to the Canadian gov't. Only dependant (spouse and children,or DoD card carrying) family members of active duty service members should get the special rate. That would be similar to how the line the gov't draws for medical, PX and other on-post privileges.  Although I do not begrudge the disabled or any vet. From a business standpoint, each hotel now has a specific number of rooms, which are available at specific times and sometimes the military/gov't rate is more than just the general rate-so MR certainly is not in danger of giving away the farm. It seems to work kinda like airline tickets. I appreciate your service and I am pleased that you were able to take advantage to the housing and education benefits that you earned for he sacrifices that you made for your country. However, those are gov't benefits, and I think there is a difference. Also, who joins the military? Certainly not the rich who can afford to pay for college, buy a house, learn a skill... It is generally the poor who serve, and when we ETS we certainly are not rich. In fact in this economy not many of us are travelling and MR should be glad to sell a room at a reduced price rather than the room remain empty. Finally, our military servicemembers now have several year-long rotations in filthy-dangerous combat zones, which puts them physically, mentally spiritually at risk. Not to mention the toll it takes on the family relationship.  Please don't think I'm slamming you, I actually appreciate the oppourtunity to fine tune my argument.

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    • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
      pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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      jaybirdjd,

      Maybe you can answer the first question that came to my mind.  Do service connected disabled vets carry any sort of standard id, which shows their status as such (much like the military retiree or active id card, or even like the AAA card, which also is discounted)?

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  • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
    jerrycoin Alumni Steward Platinum 60 Reviews
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    Agree with all of you!

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  • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
    pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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    MR Friends,

    The question I would like to pose shall undoubtedly be unpopular, so please forgive me, and do understand that I am a military veteran as well (not a retired vet, not a disabled vet, just a plain old vet, and honored to have served at that.)  From a purely business perspective, how much shall a business give away before they end up giving away the farm?  I only ask because there are tens of millions of us (vets) out there.  Include dependents and the number jumps much higher.  Active duty personnel have been given many more discounts due to improved public awareness and appreciation since 9/11, and that's great.  And I can understand the disabled vet (so long as there is a standard way to prove that status), but I think the line has to be drawn somewhere, and again from a business and practical perspective, I wonder how far out that line can be drawn?  Also, as just a plain old vet, I don't have any papers other than my DD214 to prove it, and I certainly don't carry those around with me everywhere I go.  And quite truthfully, I don't feel entitled to any sort of discount (again, I'm not disabled nor retired).  The military paid for my education and paid for my first home mortgage (VA) along with some other perks while I was on active duty.  Additionally, I believe I get to be buried in a national cemetery if I so choose.  What else do I need?  I might also apply this question to the issue of how many MR elite status perks is enough to show MR elites that they are appreciated.  This is just food for thought.  I hope it is understood that I am not criticizing anyone's perspective at all.  Not at all.  Just throwing something out there for consideration.

     

    Regards.

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    • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
      Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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      I fully understand what you are saying. There has to be a balance between benefit and those who benefit from it. I would argue however that when a dependent of a veteran is visiting that veteran at a base far from their home some accommodation should be made for a discounted rate. And thank you for your service

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      • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
        pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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        Agreed.  To clarify, you are referring to an active duty situation, and an actual dependent, not a non-dependent family member.  For instance the son-in-law is training in Grafenwoehr for 4 weeks, and the wife wants to visit for a weekend visit and requires lodging (assuming that VOQ lodging is not available).

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        • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
          Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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          dear Pluto 77 yes I was referring to an active duty service member who was dependent was deployed near a military base or to a military base where the on base housing for transient members and dependents was not available.

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      jasper100 Alumni Steward Platinum 10 Reviews
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      I think the issue here is that competitors are making major changes in their benefits to keep and get new members, while the Marriott has stayed status quo and in some cases has even downgraded benefits. So I think Marriott does need to step up its game or they will continue to lose members to their competitors!!!

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      • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
        pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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        Jasper, yes these are variables to the business equations that have to be plugged in.  Again, there is no question that military personnel and families shouldn't be honored whenever and wherever possible.  Just looking at it from the business side!

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    • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
      nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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      Personally, I don't know how anybody could disagree with those comments.  You're right, at what point do you not give away the farm?  As you so aptly pointed out, up until these two most recent wars military members, their families, retirees and veterans in general were hardly acknowledged at all.  Well, we did get acknowledged when returning from SE Asia, just not in a way we all took kindly to.  And honestly, I'm a very bitter person today because of that.  So if our brothers and sisters in arms can avoid that treatment then I'm in full support of whatever perks they get for that service.  Regarding your question about the VA identifidation, although I'm retired AF, I also have a VA rated disability and have another ID card for receiving care at the VA hospital and for dealing with VA pay issues.  The problem with granting a special rate for VA rated disabled vets is that some disabilities are just awful and tragic, where mine is known only to those I tell.  I wouldn't want any special treatment because of it.  So giving a special rate to every veteran or even every disabled veteran may be a stretch.  Grafenwoehr -- I was there and at Wilflicken only once each for training -- couple of weeks each.  This is going back to the very early 80's, but I don't remember any Marriotts or other major hotels around there.  The closest base with lodging back then was probably Vilseck (Army).  Who knows what's left in FRG anymore?  I join others, pluto77, in thanking you for your military service.  Like you, I got my education compliments of tuition assistance and the GI bill.  That in and of itself was worth every ounce of sacrifice I made.

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      • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
        shoeman1000 Platinum 4 Reviews
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        Husker

         

        your service to the country cannot ever be fully repaid and your candid words remind me of how little I know about veteran's lives.  I am so sorry about your bitterness and hope that some day you beat the demons and find a level of peace in your life.  As much as I sickened by government entitlements, I fully support veteran-related benefits and am sure there is much more our country can do to begin to thank all of you who served.  Regarding the 70's, those we turbulent times, and much of the anger in the streets really had nothing to do with our hero's as they came home, but was displaced anger at a government that wasn't listening. 

         

        Now, regarding the issue of discounted rates, the problem is so very simple.  There are hundreds, maybe thousands of groups that could give just cause for qualifying for some kind of discount for just about anything.  Whatever deals are struck, those missed opportunities for revenue will just be added back to the cost everyone else pays for the discounted service.  My fear, then the democrats have won and we truly have a socialist society......

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        • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
          tryt53 Alumni Steward Platinum 5 Reviews
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          shoeman,

          To avoid starting issues with people taking sides, it's not a bad idea to remember that there are always going to be a lot of us on the "opposite side" of any issue.  It does help keep civility if we try to avoid making statements around politics, religion, and ethnic issues on the site. (I'm one of those democrats, but also a military veteran)

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            shoeman1000 Platinum 4 Reviews
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            tryt53

             

            my apologies.  I sometimes forget what my mom taught me.  won't happen again.

             

            sincerely

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            • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
              tryt53 Alumni Steward Platinum 5 Reviews
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              No harm, and no apology needed.  I understand having passion about these issues.  I just like to keep it peaceful here in happy happy travel land  

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        • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
          nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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          Thank you shoeman.  couldn't agree more!

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      • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
        pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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        NU and others, I acknowledge your appreciation for my having served in the military, however honestly, my service was nothing, and I truly mean nothing compared with the service and sacrifice given by those serving during war (ie, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, WWII and earlier).  I humbly salute all combat veterans AND their families.  I am almost embarrassed by what a cake walk my military service was in the 1980's, when nothing (overt) was going on, and everyone just maintained combat readiness.  In a perfect world, that's how military service would always be.  (Although I do vividly remember the very moment in 1983 when I heard the news that 241 of my fellows in uniform were obliterated in Lebanon by an act of terror.  The memory still brings tears to my eyes.)

         

        Semper Fi.

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          Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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          In world war two there were approximately 600 men and women supporting every infantry man in combat.  Their dedication to keeping the fighting force supplied is why every veteran deserves to be honored. Peacetime means that we've done our job in time of war, thanks to those who came before us and sacrificed so much.  So even as a peacetime member of the armed forces you served your country, and did it well..

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          • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
            pluto77 Alumni Steward Gold 25 Reviews
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            Well, thanks for that, Steppingstones.  For some reason it reminds me of the saying, "It takes a village," which rather brings us full circle back to the topic at hand, honoring our Vets, especially those who sacrificed so much in mind, body and spirit.  Good topic.

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            • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
              Alumni Steward Platinum 8 Reviews
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              We are honoring the great majority who serve no matter when, but especially those who gave all for us.

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        • Re: Service Conected  Disabled American Vetrans
          nuhusker Platinum 2 Reviews
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          pluto77 -- don't sell yourself short.  We all did what we were assigned to do.  We accomplished our given mission.  And the 80's were no cakewalk.  Constant vigilance and preparedness kept the empire of evil at bay.  At any given point during that time we had several hundred thousand US service members serving along the iron curtain.  I was TDY to the czech border.  And stared down a soviet guard who was on the wrong side of the Brandenburg Gate.   And each person who served did so voluntarily and we had then, as we do now, the strongest, best trained, best equipped, most capable fighting force in the world.  I'm proud to associate with you and I salute you!

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