here the last 3results from the e bay auction
marriott hotel,paris , la defense, 1 night
includet i double room and breakfast for 2
and fitness room and sauna
selt for 91,45 euros
and here the results from marriott hotel
paris, rive gauche, here the price is for 2 nights
and 2 pers.includet breakfast bueffet ou free
service to your room. all taxes and service
selt for 180,65 the 2 nights
the 1 night in marriott la defense
and the 2 nights in the marriott rive
gauche wars selt last week on e bay.uk
you pay per pay pal ou credit card
2 days later you get your marriott
voucher per e mail, valide 1 year.
up to you how many nights you want buy
the reservatin, only direct with the hotel
per e mail ou phone only in englich ou german.
for your information you have many hotels from
marriott in europe, what selt per e bay the nights
when i see the marriott in athenes
i have to think on prof. chara.
i byu for athenes 3 times 2 nights
the 6 nights 384 euros, and make my reservation
alredy for end of august per mail with the hotel
I hope this post isn't taken to be rude...but...what's the point of the original post here?
I realize English isn't his primary language...but I truly don't understand what the purpose of the post is...is he selling rooms? Telling people to buy rooms on Ebay? Is it a solicitation?
He's got 100+ postings...so clearly an active Insider...but I'm admittedly confused.
I believe that Klaus is only trying to point out that you can get a better deal by purchasing nights through Marriott on ebay's UK site than paying rack rate or, in some cases, using points.
Right now, the Ren La Defense in Paris is auctioning one night with a starting bid of £1.00! And, the seller gets very good reviews!
Above: Screen capture of e-bay banner ad for Ren La Defense, Paris
This is not only confusing, but somewhat suspicious! What does the Ren LaDefense have to do with the iconic heraldry of Grand Central Station and the Chrysler Building? Why would Marriott try to promote Paris as a worldwide destination using easily recognizable photographs of architectural landmarks in New York City?
Does anyone else smell e-bay scam?
Suspicious...Yes. Is Marriott so desperate they have resorted to selling rooms on ebay? That's what I understand is happening from Klaus's post. Or, are the rooms being put on ebay by a third party, inwhich case, points and EQN won't be earned contrary to what I understood Klaus to say. And yes, those images are strange for a hotel in Paris.
I may be a naive believer in the good of man and maybe it is a scam... but I'm not so sure, TJCNewYork...
I don't think Marriott and other major hotels would allow this company to use their names and logos in promotional materials if they were not customers.
I only wish that my trip to northern France and Belgium later this year would allow me to 'test' this theory! Unfortunately, there are no offers for the towns that I will be visiting.
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Thanks Klaus/TJC for the link. I've never used ebay or any other on-line auction service, but it looks legit to me, and Klaus has a good reputation for posting on Insiders. Regarding my specific question about EQN/points, here's what I copied and pasted from the ebay link:
"Please note that you can only gain points and miles with your Marriott Rewards loyalty card when you make a reservation with one of Marriott’s direct reservations channels, for example on Marriott.com. Purchasing this eBay voucher does not entitle you to gain Marriott Rewards points and miles on room and tax. However if you present your Marriott Rewards card when you check in to the hotel, you can gain points and miles on your incremental purchases."
So the answer is No, points, and likely EQN, not earned, since this is purchased thru a 3rd party.
Am I reading this right?
Thanks again, Klaus.
It appears that Cultuzz is a 3rd party who manages the eBay sales for the hotels. Bolded italics are mine:
Cultuzz has many years´ experience in processing hotel vouchers through eBay. We have been an eBay "Certified developer" since 2002, and have even received an award for our solution. Since then, we have sold and successfully processed more than a half million vouchers to about 200,000 eBay members. This makes us the world market leader in the auctioning of hotel vouchers through eBay.
Every hotel has its own eBay account and is the actual seller of the hotel vouchers. This means the hotel is directly responsible for providing the service detailed on the voucher.
Cultuzz provides a fast, smooth payment transfer from buyer to hotel - in six different currencies. Cultuzz pays the funds, which are managed by a trust, to the hotels at least once a month regardless of whether the guest has already cashed the voucher or not.
Payment, voucher management and reservation are all carried out in a separate area, "myCultuzz", set up specifically for this purpose. After the auction eBay will take you straight to "myCultuzz", where you can instantly redeem your vouchers for many of the hotels.
Cultuzz offers voucher insurance in association with ELVIA Reiseversicherungen. This insurance offers you protection in case you are unable to travel because of ill health or for other unforeseen reasons. Added plus for insured parties: in the event of bankruptcy or closure of the hotel, Cultuzz will pay the voucher amount directly back to you.
What NUHUSKER says is absolutely correct. A few years back I bought a 'whole vacation' through Marriott (including airfare, Marriott hotel, and car) and assumed I would get Marriott points. NOT SO -- and I was not happy, assuming I'd get the whole shebang in points. Frankly, even if it's cheaper, I will never buy ' a whole vacation ' again, because in the long term I would have had far more double airline miles, 50% Marriott bonus, and 5 points per dollar for the credit card.
You only get Marriott points if you book through Marriott and/or have a Marriott VISA credit card (although in the latter case you won't get the hotel points, just the credit card points). Other hotels like Best Western have similar policies, though airlines do not. If I book a flight/vacation on Orbitz or Expedia, I AUTOMATICALLY get Delta (my preferred airline) skymiles.
In my experience, what works for airlines does not for hotels. Some hotels may allow points for online booking through other sites (if so, I don't know which ones even though I'm subscribed to Inside Flyer), but most will not.
This is disturbing, as NewHilton and others have pointed out. Marriott doesn't give us points when we don't book through them, yet this suggests they are they complicit in third party e-bay sales?
In any event, I don't want any part of it after my own experience with a Marriott vacation (for which I got no points at all), but everything that is going on these days at Marriott should be under the microscope.
We are very loyal members -- we love Marriott -- as we have proven with stays even though they are often not convenient to where we want to be.
Again, I ask Andrew to post a daily blog to keep us informed about Marriott in general and its site reconstruction (or deconstruction) process.
Klaus, Can you help me out on this one? When I enter in the Ebay search field things like Marriott Paris; Marriott London; and Marriott Los Angeles they all refer me to Marriott Central Reervations, where there is no price competition.
I have also searched under 'Seller' by entering MARRIOTT as the seller, and that returns a NIL search