Trying to reply to a DM from Dansplan, I noticed his avatar vanished. Opening his profile, it says the account is disabled. He last logged on two days ago.
Going through his last posts, it doesn't seem like he pissed anyone off? Or was there confusion when he posted in the "How to cancel my MRI account" thread?
You and I must have been reading different posts. I noticed quite a number of folks who were quite irate with comments he made.
As for what happened, it's hard to know for sure. He suggested he would leave MRI if the responses to a poll (now deleted) indicated folks didn't want him around (the last time I saw it 55% wanted him to go). Whether he left and asked for his account to be disabled or whether he later violated some of the conditions of this site is difficult to know. A couple of the topics that could be illuminating are gone and naturally, we can't see what sort of DMs might have occurred. Somewhere along the line, something went wrong and he left or was asked to leave.
55% doesn't seem very convincing.
And his comments were at times very direct (not turning around the truth, even though people may not have wanted to read it), but not necessarily personal attacks. But then again: I'm one of the MRI rookies, so you have more experience with him.
11 out of the 20 who voted when I saw it. Certainly not a huge number, meaning something else may have happened. I just don't know what.
I know a couple of long-time Insiders (who did not vote in the poll) expressed their feelings on one thread or another. A couple others shared similar thoughts of disapproval to me directly after one of his comments (see below).
Most of his comments were sarcastic rather than attacks, though some of the sarcasm was certainly mean-spirited. He even called me out in one post Re: We Are?.......MRI's! I did my best to respond without getting defensive (it might help to go back and read my earlier comment on that thread for context). He later apologized in a DM and did try to add positive responses to other posts I made later. I still got the impression that he didn't much care for me, which is an opinion anyone is entitled to hold.
Again without knowing what transpired behind the scenes, it's difficult to assess the situation fully. I'm saddened when anyone's account is disabled, whatever the reason and whether I agree with them or not. At this point, unless we learn more, all we can do is shrug and move on. The rest of us still have a lot to discuss here.
Yogi, I doubt hat he went of his own accord, there were personal attacks, several, I have thick skin, but my flash point was comments to a long standing female member of the community, that were condescending an in my view sexist. (not to mention immature and ridiculous). I reported him and am glad I did.
Hi - my name is Bob (from San Diego) and this is my first posting.
I've spent a few days reading many of the subjects that are discussed but became confused by what is written here.
I am hopeful that my participation is not short lived.
I might have the wrong impression but some of the comments here lead me to believe that if an individual posts comments that members of this group find irritating it is grounds for being asked to leave the site.
I have some strong opinions and would find it difficult not to offend someone when discussion controversial subjects about my travel experiences.
Hoping to hear that I am getting the wrong impression,
Thanks in advance,
Welcome to Insiders.
Being irritating is fine. Having opinions is fine. Violating the terms of the website, which is a Marriott-owned one, is not fine.
Your couple of days of studying may not have been sufficient for full context of this particular situation.
And no non-Marriott employee on this forum can state for certain whether the individual concerned left voluntarily or was asked to leave.
Enjoy the forum. There are many highly informed folks here who love to share and to learn. We welcome you-- and your opinions.
(written in jest)
Now you really have me scared.
People disappear on this site!
I'm not ashamed to admit that my political leanings are quite opposite of the "family" that controls Marriott.
I support the right for any one to practice their faith - BUT would they make me disappear - SHOULD I GO BACK TO HILTON?
I'm quite sure setting you up at a Hilton is not in the game plan.
Off topic: The faith of the founders of Marriott certainly has little to do with staying in a Marriott property. They even have caffeinated coffee. And liquor. And other than a Book of Mormon in the room, very ignorable, I see little evidence of anything Mormonic. It's a business.
Again, welcome to Insiders.
Irritating comments would not be grounds for removal unless they were also found to be personal attacks or the like. Stick around. I'm sure you'll find that even those of us who generally get along fairly well irritate each other from time to time.
Welcome to Insiders. We look forward to your contributions.
I'm getting a little confused - (I might not be as smart as the rest of you) so I need some more info if I can apologize for the effort in advance.
Is there a problem on this site where individuals are barred due to violating certain rules?
Are these incidents common and if so why is there so much animosity between contributors to the site?
Am I assuming that most here want the same info that will make their lives easier on the road?
Not common at all. We've only had two, possibly three that I know of.
You are correct that most of us are seeking or sharing stories and tips about Marriott Rewards or travel in general. For the most part, you'll find a bunch of well-traveled individuals with a wealth of knowledge about places near and far.
pastorbob, welcome to Insiders. Please don't be influenced negatively by one incident. There are some very good, helpful, well informed contributors to this forum, and the Marriott Team are very helpful in getting any problems we may have (such as points misposted etc) sorted out.
It is very rare for someone to be barred from the site. In fact - although we have no proof - some of us are convinced that of the 3 accounts disabled this year, 2 of them are one and the same person, who came back in a different guise to cause trouble. As I said, no proof, but I am not alone in my belief.
As in every walk of life, there will always be a small minority who try to cause trouble. Just be assured it is not the norm at all on Insiders.
Tommo781 every new post is more bazaar as the one before - You now tell me that after being "kicked off" they come back with a different account?
Okay - let me add this up:
There are those so vindictive that they utilize their time to post on this site and irritate others. Additionally, these individuals re-entering this forum seem to have no intention about discussing hotels but post offensive opinions etc., about other members.
AND, you are telling me this is a great site about hotel experiences?
Would someone tell me what motivated these individuals removed by "whoever" and have returned?
He either quit or was banned. I do know he was not mistakenly disabled via "How to cancel thread" though.
Only insider Insiders will understand this, but don't blame me....as I voted for Pedro. Regrettably, Dansplan has fallen into the Marriott Tar Pit. Some will cheer his super soaker sarcasm is gone, but to me......satirical banjo playing doesn't get any better than that. Of course, I experienced his more funny sarcasm directed at me and not the more direct kind others experienced.
Hey Wes, shouldn't the bug eyed professor be in the tar pit too? (Maybe the Roady Awards too)
As for Dan, I don't like to see any one go. But unlike Chuck who I believe added value to the site but had a few outbursts that went way too far, Dan seemed to die the death by a 1000 self imposed cuts. His posts could suck the last ray of light out of a dark room.
I noticed over the weekend that the poll was gone, was going to ask about it, and figured if it was a wider spread issue than the poll it would come up again this week.
And so it has.
I don't know if he jumped or if he was pushed.
But the poll may have been jumping the shark, especially in light of other complaints which seem to have been made. Complete conjecture on my part. I know nothing concrete.
I responded to the poll. I don't know if you saw my post, but I pointed out that he had posted an offensive response to me on a thread, and immediately removed it, but not before I had received the email notifying me of activity on the thread, including his post. So I read it. I also received notification of activity on another thread I had contributed to, and he did exactly the same to another long standing, valued Insider.
He then posted that he had reported my post as abusive/abrasive! In the UK we would say that was the pot calling the kettle black. However, I have heard nothing at all from the Mods, so I have no idea whether he jumped or was pushed.
I did see your post, Tommo781 ,but chose not to repeat anyone's names in this particular opera.
I saw some of the activity you referenced as well.
Yes, the e-mail notification can make it a bit tough to put the horse back in the barn.
And here in the colonies we also say kettle/pot/black. But sadly when we go for a pint, it is frequently not only less than Imperial, it is getting down to 10-12 ounces in many locations. The 'artisanal beer' crowd is saying that they need specialised bar ware to truly appreciate the delicate aromas, &tc.
I have just arrived and ready to move on after discovering that everyone here seems to be "polarized" and/or trying/not trying to get kicked off the site.
Are there those here that irritate just to irritate? Does anyone discuss what their experiences were at hotels?
Why is there so much hate on this site. A site that seems to be a haven for many mad, mad individuals.
The only answers I have received so far has been from bejacob which didn't reveal very much.
Is there anything you can tell me that would suggest not viewing this site as a home for a bunch of "crazies"?
pastorbob you are posting at the same time as me. I have also responded to you further up this thread. Believe me, this really is a site for Marriott fans who pass on their knowledge/experiences to others.
In fact, there is a thread at the moment concerning York in the UK. I returned from that very hotel yesterday, and fully intend to add to the thread later today to give some tips to those who do not know the city or hotel as well as I do.
I suppose if one were to assume this thread is indicative of the majority of the content on this site, one might get the wrong idea. You may wish to branch out a bit by reading and commenting on other topics. Why not try these for example?
That's just a sample of the topics which have had new comments posted in the last 24 hours. Continued focus on a few users who had their accounts disabled will give you a mistaken impression of Marriott Rewards Insiders.
There's really little more to say on this subject. Join us on some of the other content. Share your thoughts and travel experiences. You'll get a much better feel for the site.
I was directed to this site by clients that own five hotel properties (4 full service Marriott hotels and one Hilton). They do not manage their hotels. The Marriott properties are managed by Marriott personnel and the Hilton is managed by a private hotel management firm.
They told me I should give Marriott a try and so I have stayed at two hotels (full service Marriott properties) in the last 2 weeks.
You have listed some topics that I thought interesting enough to read the threads.
(I'm going to insult somebody so apologies in advance)
As an example let me use the article on Springfield Suites.
If the author of this posting was in fact a sophisticated business traveler he would have known that there are no Springfield Suite properties that are not franchises AND non are managed by Marriott - consequently the man identified as the GM of the property could not have been a "credit to the Marriott organization". This comment was then followed by a posting thanking him for the info.
One comment was simply - "yes Springfield Suites are really nice" and the next one says "thank you for relating the wonderful experience".......
Now, are these the same polite individuals who seem to have nothing better to do that are complaining about others that are irritating them?
I was hoping that I would receive info from "insiders" rather than uninformed travelers.
The more I read the more comical some of these postings become.
All I am trying to determine (and I think I have) is should I contribute by advising unusually good and bad experiences at hotels.
Now if you decide I'm a trouble maker - fine I can handle that. Or are you (and you seem to be one of the more seriously devoted members) a individual that would like to see this arena upgraded to an informative site that can be taken seriously without the clash of personalities. AND the nonsensical thank you's etc etc.
Tommo781 So I don't tread where I shouldn't would you be so kind as to give me an idea what is considered offensive on this site? Was there something you posted that he disagreed with?
Wow, I have stumbled on the weirdest site by accident!!!!
Have no idea what this comment is so I will assume you are simply devoid of constructive comments.
This is a joke - can't anyone say: I want an informative site???? instead of Okay Dan* - I showed up here yesterday and can't believe the nonsense.
Don't you guys have a life????
*I don't know who "Dan" is - I wanted to know what the subject "what happened to Dan was" and that is the reason I cam to this thread................if your diversion to the truth about the ridiculous comments here are accusing me of being someone else have fun - and a nice day.
I'm not sure what you a looking for in this site, but you do seem to have a strange fascination with this particular topic. Perhaps it's time to move on to something else. Far be it from me to label you a trouble maker, but should you continue to linger on this subject, others will probably do so.
The informative parts certainly won't be found here.
This will be my last post (should make all of you happy)...............I was looking for a site with serious business travelers passing on constructive information.
What I found was a site where the majority of contributors seem to have nothing better to do than post ridiculous comments not pertaining to anything important. Additionally they seem to attack anyone that suggests they should concentrate on information to inform rather than rhetoric!
As to this topic, I was intrigued by the subject - "why is it here" , "why were members kicked off the site", "what did they say or do to get kicked off" etc etc, this led to my other comments.
During my short visit I have determined that you are one of the more serious members. What I don't know is if you are a leader - if you are it is simply up to you and other members that want a better site to call out these guys that attack others and probably have never contributed anything constructive.
There must be others like you!!! I have reviewed much of your recent comments on this and other topics . At no time in any of your comments have you attacked or commented in a negative way on anyone. WHY ARE YOU IN THE MINORITY!!!
Please understand (I know you and most won't) that I was looking for constructive info. Info that I am still looking for.
Although I will cease posting comments I am going to continue (from time to time) to review the subjects discussed hoping to be informed by some in the future.
I wish you, and all other members whose intentions are for better traveling experiences, all the best of luckl
I ask you sir would your comment be categorized as one from a mature individual who wants to post constructive thoughts to this site or is it of an immature person exhibiting what the problem with this site is?????
I am hopeful that you are intelligent enough to recognize the difference
Given that it was me who started this thread, I want to put some facts in perspective.
First of all: I'm relatively new to Insiders too. I've been member of numerous internet communities in the past though (even in site admin functions), all with their own little soap dramas with members trying to find the limits of trolling and testing the moderation/administration team and also moderators that can be impulsive, creating a public outcry among the members. Hence, I wanted to get a better sense of how the dynamics are on Insiders by trying to learn about all possible sides of Dansplan's disappearance.
Second: I had no clue that this thread would get so much momentum. In stead of getting a confirmation that Dansplan left on his own accord or a Community Manager confirming that he was suspended due to a severe breach of T&Cs (or ignoring warnings for small breaches). I know from experience that these discussions can be fragile; people feel a lot like being stepped on their toes. The priority should be to not draw too-quick conclusions and keep an open view.
Lastly: personally I don't think this thread is (nor should entirely be) a full representation of the dynamics on Insiders. I do think it has value that we can discuss openly about these subjects and I like the fact that community members care about each other. But if you find this a turn-off, I suggest you simply ignore it and focus on the other, much more informative, topics that MRI has to offer.
I'll go see if I can close this thread from further comments.
wow. what a sad state of affairs this community has entered....
Having been a member of this group about as long as anyone, I have seen the nastiness rise to this level only on one other occasion. The dynamics then, were very similar to those now. First, there was a member that was racking up his posts just to be the leader in the house. His determination got others to try to keep up, and we found ourselves with the same mindless posts we see from many members now. Secondly, there was some hostility played out, and while it was wrong, what really got old was a few members trying to police the area with 'holier than thou' attitudes. Finally, it became impossible to find the interesting reads with all of the silly banter back and forth that had nothing to do with travel or anything else for that matter. All that drove me away then, and will do so again. This site has lost many of the more influential posters for similar reasons. Such a shame..... It is no longer, in my opinion a good source for travel information, and it's main source of value is friendly (and not-so-friendly) banter. I hope this all gets worked out.
til then,travel safe
To "answer" my own question: I just received a Direct Message with "Insiders" information (forgive the pun).
It seems that it was not Dansplan's decision to deactivate his account, which should say enough.
Now let's focus on more important affairs.
Thank you and good night!