I know the Insiders credits are for participation and bragging rights and different activities award various levels of credit. But how does one rack up over 100 credits on the first day of the month? ramoneur, what's your secret? Did you win the credits lottery?
IAHFLYR, but there are daily limits, so I'm stumped as to how you can accumulate that many points in a day!
You're both right. There are limits on some activities (you can only get 5 points per day for "likes"). Following others has no limit (other than the number of users). So what ramoneur is doing is following as many people as possible. I'm guessing the only reason is to bump up the Insider credits as I can't think of a logical reason to want to follow hundreds of users.
Folks used to do the same thing with "likes" which is why the limit was put in. I'd like to see that changed. Maybe you can only get 5 (or even 10) credits for liking other people's posts, but there might be no limit to how many points you can get from others liking your content. Or something along those line. Chances are good that if others try to "game the system," similar limits will be implemented on "following" or "tagging" content.
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Abuse or not, the limit on "likes" came about because some folks (who are probably long gone) went "like" crazy. The limits imposed affected those of us who stuck around. You could even go so far as to say that the hotel reviews were dropped because of all the "one and done" posters who but up bad reviews. (I don't know if that is true, but the area did become a convenient place to vent about all sorts of wrongs real and perceived).
The point is that our actions on this site are monitored. The credits were created to add a bit of gamification to the site. Points for posting a blog, points for asking questions, points for having answers marked as helpful or correct, points for tagging content, points for following others, points for liking posts. All are meant to encourage activity. Limits were added later when it was deemed necessary.
A few months ago a user named lutycoon earned 827 points on the first day of the month (Feb?) by following 827 users. As far as I know, we've never seen him/her again. I guess I just question the concept of earning credits that don't mean anything just for the sake of earning credits. The running monthly activity is nice to know who's participating. Inflating the numbers sort of takes away what little meaning there was.
bejacob Your observation of @lutycoon behavior on a single day fascinated me, so I took a look at the profile and subsequently the website referenced in that profile. The Insider appears to be a travel agent, or in the travel business. I'm wondering if there wasn't a "business purpose" behind trying to capture all those names. As always, thanks for sharing your insights and observations.
muppetwrangler I was puzzled too, there are not enough new people to follow. I try to participate each day. My favorite day is when I don't get any points for putting a like on, as 5 others have already "liked" what I posted that day. I have not figured out the tagging, either. At the end of the day it does not matter. polls count, and I try to participate in those.
I think we may be getting off topic, It looks to me what is being said in this string is there is not much point in insiders participation points because there are ways to pad your points that don't truly reflect participation. So...why have it?
By the way my friend from California would have a field day with this post.
Credits are credits. The only thing more participation does is allows more opportunities for likes and correct/helpful answers. If fact, I would welcome some "likes" on this comment, but please wait until tomorrow when the counter resets as I have earned all I can today.
I didn't notice where I was last month. It was probably in the top ten, but not in the top five. None of that matters. I post my comments, blog entries, occasional photo album pictures, and status updates. I'm sure most days I get the 5 credits for "likes." Content is far more important than credits. I will admit to getting a little irate when folks do something that causes limits on what we can do (such as the excess "likes" a couple years back that imposed the cap at 5 per day).
My latest pet peeve is related to all the "spam blog posts" that have nothing to do with Marriott and frequently nothing to do with travel. I usually report those to the moderation team and let them decide what to do with them. Most end up getting deleted. We cover a wide range of topics not always specifically Marriott related. Even so, some stuff is clearly out of place.
We're lucky Marriott has created a place for us. There are a lot of great folks here (and a few trouble makers as well ). We need both to make MRI what it is. To pinch my favorite line from one of the first friends I made here, "keep on keepin' on Insiders."
bejacob, if I like someone's post, who gets the credit? The person whose post I liked? Me? Both of us?
I will mark your post as liked bejacob but not for another hour. I have noticed the counter resets at 8am UK time, so nearly an hour to go. If I mark it then, we will BOTH het a credit - whoopee!
I agree totally about the "spam blog posts". I have often wondered what someone hopes to achieve by posting such things on a website such as this. I just ignore them, but maybe reporting them is something more of the regulars such as myself should do to make sure they get deleted.
There have been a number of blog posts which are on the edge, for me anyway, where it seems there is some purpose besides providing useful information. I haven't reported any yet, but the suspect ones have links to a commercial site mixed into the content, with the obvious aim of having us click and generate revenue. Usually the links are mixed in with some useful travel information, which is why I haven't reported anything. If I were more dedicated I would Google the blog title to see if it's a copy/paste from elsewhere as an indication of whether it's genuine or spam.
Those are the tricky ones. I tend to leave anything with a connection to travel alone, though some probably don't belong on this site. If a blog has nothing to do with travel, I will report it. There was one related to financing a college education. It probably contained good info. It just didn't belong here. Others were thinly disguised adverts. The decision as to whether is stays or goes belongs to the moderators. I just bring things to their attention when I see something that looks out of place.
Like this one, for instance (Beat the Fuel with these Top Eco- Short Trips). Travel related. Links to offsite content. Nothing about Marriott.
Is it spam? Maybe.
Would I report it? No.
It does provide some good travel advice. It's somewhat questionable as to whether it belongs on a Marriott-owned site. More of these are popping up lately. I have mixed feelings about whether that is a good thing or not.
Perhaps I should ask muppetwrangler to branch the discussion into a new thread.
Come on ramoneur, tell us how you did it. I doubt anyone cares enough to copy you, but it would be only right for you to get the props for your ingenuity... And if anything, I'm more curious as to the why as well as the how...
I'm baffled by all of this. I have no idea how I get my credits (in what ratio, I know I get some sort of credit whenever I do "stuff", but have no idea as to the particulars.). In point of fact, I'm somewhat embarrassed by the number of credits that I have. I don't care about credits. Except to say that I wish they didn't exist.
pluto77, I agree with everything that you wrote. I never really paid much attention to the credits, although it caught my eye last month already that some Insiders had high numbers of credits for the month. My curiosity was piqued as to how these credits are obtained and how one goes about reaching what seems like an unattainable amount.
This is one of the most sensible things I have heard bejacob. I notice from your profile you are following 31 Insiders. In all the time I have been a member, I am only following 42. Like you I am baffled as to why anyone would want to follow hundreds. After all, the credits mean nothing in reality. What really matters is the conversation/advice/information on Insiders.
BTW, I have liked your post, giving us both a credit.
bejacob, I believe that the problem is that you can toggle the "follow" button and essentially get unlimited points.
peymanagement You're right! I just did a little experiment. I un-followed you, then followed you 3 times. Each time I received a credit for following you.
That's true. It only takes one or two users to take what was essentially a function system and break it. The sad thing is that it ruins it for everyone.
If that sort of activity continues, the solution will be to do away with the credits entirely. That would be a shame as they do did provide some modest value as far as knowing who was active.
Not sure I understand about "a lot of emails when you follow too many people"? I get very very few emails from Marriott usually only regarding my Rewards account. What am I missing in translation jerryl?
Not to go off on another tangent, but I'm baffled what the point of anyone following anyone is. I only did it because it was a way to get a credit when I checked into them, trying to figure out what they were all about. I'll admit I was looking for ways to boost my credits, as it was speculated somewhere that may have been a way out of posts being held up in moderation when I first became active (it wasn't, but was worth a shot).
But I didn't notice any difference when following people, no notifications of posts, no easy way to link to content of people I follow, so other than the feel-good message of "I like the content you post so I'll give you a follow credit" I don't see any point to the "follow" feature, just like the credits overall.
Am I missing something regarding the "follow" feature? Is there some simple way to see the content posted by people I am following? I'd expected it to work something like Twitter where I could see a list of most recent posts and thus access great content even more easily.
hassan, Just to throw a ya but in, I think the lack of functionality has been established, however it makes me feel part of the community when I look at the list of people who are following me and I see the likes of you and Muppetwrangler and bejacob and brightly and jerrycoin and other esteemed members.
hassmh, For me, there is value in following people who consistently post content that is of high interest to me. Why? By following these people, I am more assured of having their posts show up in my feed, so that I don't miss something great that they may have posted while I'm away from the forum. The flip side of that is that if one follows too many people, the private feed (inbox) can get overwhelming. So I sort of stopped following people at one point. Thus, if there are any of you that have followed me, but I haven't followed you in return, please don't be offended; I'm on the forum often enough to catch most everything of interest to me, and truly appreciate the quality input from the vast majority of regulars here. The fact that many of us remain here, I think is a testament to the quality of input from the members of this forum. It continues to provide value to the Marriott traveler and consumer.
Additionally, to speak to jerryl's comment above, not only can we follow other posters, but we can follow discussion threads. By default, if a person makes a comment on a discussion thread, they automatically become followers of that thread, and will continue to receive notifications anytime that someone else posts a comment on that discussion for as long as the discussion remains alive. There is an option to 'unfollow' a discussion, if you want to 'leave' the conversation. But to jerry's point, following people and discussions can lead to an overwhelming amount of email, based on your notification settings under preferences in your profile. I got so tired of managing the dozens of emails (notifications by email of other's postings) that I was getting, that I turned off all of my email notifications.
I know whose posts I like to read, plus I hop on here often enough (most days, in fact) that it's pretty easy to seek out comments, posts and topics of discussion from posters with similar interests, without having to have all of those emails and notifications in my inbox.