6 Replies Latest reply: Apr 21, 2009 11:47 PM by tjcnewyork RSS

Marriott Vacation Club Time Share Buyers Beware!

billsigler Gold
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The changes in point requirements for rewards stays that kick in on Jan. 15 are a body blow to Marriott timeshare owners.  I once owned four Marriott timeshare weeks and could get 110,000 points for trading a week for points.  At the time of my first purchase, 110,000 points would get me a week at a five star Marriott property in London.  With the latest change, it takes 105,000 points to get just three nights--a more than 50 percent devaluation. However, at the last sales presentation I went to in 2008, Marriott was still offering only 110,000 points for a silver week. It is risable that Marriott calls this an enhancement!  At least try to be honest and not treat your customers like gullible children.  I have sold two of my weeks and have moved on to Hilton as my hotel chain of choice.  Anyone who thinks that the opportunity to trade for points makes purchase of a Marriott timeshare attractive need only ask the sales representative to give him a history of hotel reward points requirements over the past fifteen years.

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    travelbuddies Platinum 1 Reviews
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    I just want to weigh in about the new "Wow, 5 nts for 4 and no blackout dates, lucky you!" points program.  I am very disappointed in this change.  It stinks.         And, it is a huge difference.  And now a new category 8!  Our loyalty is not fairly reciprocated.  And Marriott won't change it so it seems we are the only ones who can change.  :[ 

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    conman Platinum 1 Reviews
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    Couldn't agree more. It is a terrible move by Marriott and MVCI. I own 2 weeks and my 110k points per week are now worth a whole lot less - and that while weekly maintenance fees have risen from $900+ to $1,500 per week! So you actually pay 50% more for points that soon will be worth 50% less, a double hitter.

    I have written to the Chief Customer Officer at my resort (MKO) proposing they consider a) increasing the points and b) issue Elite-qualifying nights per week owned, much like the Marriott Visa card does. No reply to date...

    (For each location tag, you will be guided through a 3-step process to add (1) a city and a state or a city and a country, (2) a Marriott brand, and (3) a Marriott hotel.)

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    thomas44 Platinum 1 Reviews
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    I couldn't find the old thread about the new program so I posted a new post somewhere but can't find it either.  So I'll repeat what I said here.

    I just had my first experience with the new NO BLACKOUT enhancement this morning and it's a big fat lie.  As late as yesterday there were standard rooms and studios available at the Marriott Mountainside Resort at Vail at the stay anytime award of 260,000 for a week starting on February 6.  This morning there are no award stays available at all for either a standard or a studio.......even though there standard rooms and studios available for paying customers.  Despite the encouragement of Marriott to just wait and see.......give it a chance......it looks like we've all been screwed.

    (For each location tag, you will be guided through a 3-step process to add (1) a city and a state or a city and a country, (2) a Marriott brand, and (3) a Marriott hotel.)

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    j22frosty Platinum 1 Reviews
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    I think it is very important that Marriott management replies to this concern. 

     

    It just doesn't make sense that the new program with "No Blackout Dates" as its hallmark would not have rooms available on the 1st day of its implementation. 

     

    Could there possibly be a computer "glitch?"

     

    Ed, please respond! 

    (For each location tag, you will be guided through a 3-step process to add (1) a city and a state or a city and a country, (2) a Marriott brand, and (3) a Marriott hotel.)

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    tjcnewyork Platinum
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    Vacation ownership works, that's why the community of Marriott vacation owners with anywhere from one week to multiple weeks grew from 350,000 to 390,000 during 2008 and the number of club locations now exceeds 50 worldwide.  Like gas, real estate, movie tickets, travel and a fine glass of wine, prices go up. Who expects the cost of services available in a full service hotel in New York, Paris or Rome to stay the same?  It's not realistic. 

     

    Marriott Vacation villas are not full service hotels, nor do they pretend to be.  They are a home away from home in popular family vacation destinations. They are designed with an owner perspective including luxurious decor, comfortable furnishings, spacious rooms, spotless baths, fully-equipped kitchens, enough dining seating to host a private party and entertainment centers to keep everyone engaged.  Vacation clubs provide a completely different experience that I enjoy and look forward to year after year.  And, I'm in very good company.

     

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    Grande Ocean  Beachplace     Surf Watch    Custom House   Ko Olina Beach

     

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    Maui Ocean     Marco Island  Desert Springs Newport Coast Imperial Palm

     

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    Phuket Beach   Aruba Surf    Ile-de-France   Marbella   Frenchmen's Cove

     

    After 15+ years of vacation ownership at Imperial Palm Villas and exchanging to visit the places above and more, Marriott Vacation Club continues to be a wonderful brand that delivers a vacation experience that I value and can give as a deeded legacy to my spouse and children.  You can't do that with points, nor do I want to.  Points do not appreciate, they do not accrue interest nor are they inflation proof.  But, Marriott timeshare has proven value.

     

    I fully agree that buyers should beware of timeshare. Beware of the competitors with developer-run boards.  Beware of the resorts who do not refurbish their villas and fail to maintain infrastructure.  Beware of the brands that burden owners with very costly maintenance fees and assessments.

     

    Postscript 4/23:  It's very clear from the number of posts from MVCI owners that go w/o reply that our interests in the context of Marriott Rewards are underserved.  I would like to know if Marriott Rewards has anyone with MVCI experience as part of their business unit.  Adding resources with MVCI experience would facilitate a higher degree of brand integration that MVCI owners expect and deserve.     

    (For each location tag, you will be guided through a 3-step process to add (1) a city and a state or a city and a country, (2) a Marriott brand, and (3) a Marriott hotel.)

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    tjcnewyork Platinum
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    Conman

     

    Since June 30, 2008 there is a tighter brand integration between MVCI and Marriott Rewares.  MVCI owners who occupy their home resort OR exchange into another MVCI resort through Interval AND present their Marriott Rewards # at check-in will receive credit for the nights stayed towards qualifying for Elite status.

     

    I deposited a week in 2006 and occupied at my home resort last October.   To my pleasant surprise, the nights were credited on my Rewards account.  The change in policy prompted a call to the executive office who confirmed the change.  Apparently thousands of owner have been clamoring for the change.  Sources indicate there are additional changes pending.

    (For each location tag, you will be guided through a 3-step process to add (1) a city and a state or a city and a country, (2) a Marriott brand, and (3) a Marriott hotel.)

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