27 Replies Latest reply: Apr 8, 2013 5:34 PM by joeym RSS

Marriott Timeshare

fdrmass Gold
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I am thinking about getting a Platinum week at Hilton Head but am concerned with the trading aspect if this as we love to travel all over the place. What has been your experience in regards to trading lets say Hilton Head Platinum for Vail (in the winter), Aruba (in the summer), etc in the MVC at those locations. Any informative comments are most welcomed.

  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    mikiegfla Platinum 4 Reviews
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    My wife and I purchased a Marriott timeshare in Palm Springs about 14 years ago. If I had to give an honest answer, I’d say it’s been a mixed bag. First and foremost, Marriott is a class act and we have not had any problems with them or the property. The major frustration has come with the exchanges. When we purchased we had one baby and it was easy to exchange in those days because the industry was so small. Today, we can only go away during school vacation and it becomes nearly impossible to get an exchange with a resort that is in high demand during that time. We currently have nearly two dozen exchanges on request with Interval International and the requests are now two years old. Our requests are mostly for the Caribbean since we live in Florida. We also attempted to get Colorado and Utah during the winter for some skiing, but you can imagine how that went. Another problem is that we are nickel and dimed. Each time you want to reserve with Interval we run up against hundreds of dollars in fees (annual renewal, foreign exchange requests, the list goes on). Another thing to watch out for are maintenance fees. When we purchased we paid about $300 a year, now it’s closing in on $1000 and assessments will probably be staring down on us as the property ages and needs to be refurbished. With Marriott, the maintenance is due January 15th, and you know how difficult it is to shell out any money right when the holiday credit card bills come due. There’s also property tax to consider. One more thing, it’s getting pretty darn expensive to fly to a vacation spot these days, so add that into the mix. Flying 4 people to Aruba for a week at the timeshare can easily cost over $2k.  If it sounds like I’m totally negative, I’m not. We have had some very memorable family vacations in very deluxe accommodations and wouldn’t trade it for anything. Would I do it again? Probably, but with the expectation that exchange aren’t as easy to come by as the sales people make it out to be.

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    globetrekker Platinum
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    Thank you Mike. Your post is very helpful.  I have been considering for sometime now to purchase Timeshare and my biggest concern was trading. I guess Timeshare is not for people like me that don’t like to go to the same resort more than twice. 

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    almadcity Platinum
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    Suggest you buy the platinum week at Vail as there is only one property.  There are many properties on HHI and it's much easier to get one on trade.  As an owner at Vail Streamside I can say you must book your desired week as early as possible to get the week you want.  It has more trading power as well.

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    teresa Gold
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    We own 3 Marriott timeshares and have been very satisfied with them. If you are concerned about exchanges, choose a timeshare located on a high demand property. We own one in Vail, for 17 years now and had no problem exchanging for Aruba(fall), Lake Tahoe(winter), Palm Desert (spring).  In addition, Interval gives us another extra week (accommodation certificate) for depositing the Vail week. You therefore get 2 weeks out of your 1-week exchange. Another feature that you should consider is the lock-out unit.  The other property we own (Koolina) allows you to split the 2-BR villa and therefore gives you 2 weeks of deposit with Interval. We have exchanged the lock-out unit (studio) to a 1 BR in Kauai.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    antraveler Silver
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    First, I think you should buy where you go most often.  However,  aHilton Head Platinum Week is an extremely powerful trade.  I would say more powerful than Vail overall.  I If you plan far enough in advance, I think that you should be able to get the exchange into Vail.  Summer in Aruba, is not the busiest time there...winter is, so, I wouldn't worry about Aruba.

    Just a note, that Hilton Head Platinum, you can trade for 125k points every year.  I think that is pretty good, for myself that liks the points.

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      joeym Silver 2 Reviews
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      yours is the answer ive been looking for!  own Marriott timeshare Platinum for Harbour Lakes FL and want to trade for Aruba for summer of 2014...do you think I can get it ?  6 weeks flexible travel time?????

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    mikiegfla Platinum 4 Reviews
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    I'm very confused by the replies here that state "powerful trade" or "more trading power". Am I just not using the system correctly? I have a week at Palm Desert and when I deposit it with Interval I'm placed on the same waiting list for an available request as the next guy. I also take exception that Aruba is easier in the summer since it's low season. I've had a request in for a two bedroom property in Aruba for the summer of 2007 & 2008 (second week in June till third in August), none of which became available. I'm about to place a request for 2009 and probably won't get that either, in addition to a dozen other Caribbean properties. Also, I go onto the Interval site about every 2 weeks to look at availability for the coming year  and unless I want to go to Arkansas in January, it's pretty much slim pickins'. To make matters worse,a rep from Interval calls me every few weeks to tell me "they are still looking to fulfill our request".

    Are there tricks of the trade that I'm just not using?

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    lobsterlover Gold
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    If you buy a platinum week, the most expensive option, you will probably be able to trade.  I own a platinum week on Ft. Lauderdale beach and have traded for Park City, Curacao, Key West.

    We also own at the Marriott Vail.  There are 3 buildings there (used to be 5 but two pulled out since they wouldn't pay for upgrades).  There is one high end building (evergreen).  Douglas and Birch are not as upscale.  But we aren't in the condo much.  There is a shuttle to the gondola which is nearly as convenient as ski in/ski out.  We can always trade Vail for anywhere.  There are resales that are less expensive, but if in ski season, give you great trading value.  I would suggest you consider buying a ski week instead of Hilton Head and you will have much better trading success.  A Vail ski week in Birch during ski season will range $10-!5K.  Others are more expensive. 

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    rodco34 Silver
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    Trough research and experience I found that buying at the most popular properties returned the best trading returns. I other words, buying in Hawaii, Aruba, or London gives you the best trading power period.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    mikiegfla Platinum 4 Reviews
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    I was hoping that RODCO34 could elaborate on his reply that buying properties in Aruba, etc result in better trading opportunities. Again, I'm still confused why some properties are more successful at garnering high demand exchanges than others when going through Interval.

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    traveladdict1 Gold
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    Currently have several timeshares; two Marriott Vacation Club properties, would love to sell my 3 BR Ocean View Silver week in Palm Beach, FL, on Singer Island, and wonder if anyone has traded for another, or sold inside or outside the Marriott Family?  Would love to hear about anyone's experience.  This 3 BR has been a wonderful week that has easily traded for anytime of the year and to all locations, even international.  I've also taken advantage of the points every other year since I have the other two.  Just don't need to keep 3 to manage...can anyone offer some direction or issues to consider prior to a sale?  

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    steamboat Silver
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    Here are some observations (we currently own 3 timeshares): buy somewhere you like to vacation in case you don't trade the unit, buy the highets level you can afford (trading power is based on where and when your trade is available so the better the level and the more demanding time for your units area, the better the trading); I think all levels pay nearly the same maintenance fee so thats a wash. Buying a timeshare is not an investment but it should make you take vacations just so your not throwing the money away. We've had our Marriott Hilton Head timeshare (low season) for sale for 2 years with Marriott and they can't even tell us where we are on the list (2 years ago we were number 97 and current projected return is 50% of purchase price through Marriott). Marriott retains a right of first refusal so if you sell the unit outside Marriott, you have to get them to approve the sale for the price you've negotiated before the sale is final (i.e., if you fire sale the unit, they get to buy it back at a really cheap price - we'veactually thought of using this route just to get out of the maintenance fee). My personal opinion after 20 years of tiemshare ownership is as follows: buy only one of the cheapest timehsare you can using the re-sale market or e-bay (be suprised at the deals on e-bay), join one of the trading companies (II or RCI) and then use the get-away function to buy cheap weeks in locations you want to vacation in. Just my 2 cents worth.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    beachorbust Platinum
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    We just returned from a week at Marriott's Barony Beach in Hilton Head.  One of our favorite properties on the island for our purposes.  On a rainy day, we sat through one of the pitches from the sales group there, and were told that HHI owners return to use their units over 87% of the time.  And we have learned through experience that unless you own there, (we do not), you will have an extremely difficult time  to trade in.  The HHI  properties trade very well in  Platinum season, so I don't think you could go wrong with your purchase.  Whether or not you decide to go through Marriott, where last week an Oceanside unit in Barony was selling for $34,000, or the private resale market, where you can get Oceanfront for $30,000, is something you would have to weigh given the points value. Good Luck!

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    2mvcsluvit Platinum 4 Reviews
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    I can tell you that I have owned Marriott Fairway Villas for 6 years and I have only stayed there once using my week.  We have exchanged every other year and have not had any problem getting what we have wanted.  We've traded into Hilton Head (Barony Beach), Aruba (Surf Club, which we now also own), Orlando, Williamsburg, Myrtle Beach.  And I would not categorize Fairway Villas as a Prime location.  I do own Platinum, which gives me decent trading power.

    By trading power, that means that not all Marriott weeks trade at the same level.  For instance, a Platinum week in Hawaii will have a LOT better trading power than a Bronze week at one of the ski locations.  When a request is made to II, it is not really done on a first come first serve basis.  Your deposited unit is ranked against everything else that is in the list.  That may not seem fare, but it is a reality, and seems fare to the person that owns the much more expensive week.  Remember though, MVCI owners get the 25 day priority window.  I would guess that many deposits are taken by other MVCI owners most of the time.

    For a lot more info about trading practices, I'd recommend going to tugbbs (I hope I'm allowed to say that). :)

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    padirescu Platinum
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    MikeGFLA, I'll share with you my experience and a story around supply & demand that made complete sense to me when my wife & I were investigating which property to purchase through MVCI.  We originally had looked into properites in Hawaii, Vail, and Park City.  What we found was the following.

    1)  Hawaii - While it's a beautiful tropical paradise, it's climate effectively makes it available 365 days a year (supply).  It's also a beach property which is one of 28 that MCVI currently offers and 1 of probably 1000's of beach timeshares worldwide.  Also, imagine how many miles of prestine beach destinations there are worldwide (I'll come back to this later).

    2)  Vail - While we really enjoyed this property, it's wasn't a "true" ski-in ski-out property so the logistics of getting to and from the lifts were less desirable for us on a "relaxing vacation".  However, it is a ski resort which is only open during a small window of year for peak season (demand).  Also, as we live in Florida, the altitude got to us a bit while we were there.

    3)  Park City (Marriott Mountainside) - Absolutely fell in love with the property and convenience of a true "Ski-in ski-out" resort.  You literally put your skis on outside the gate and ski downhill to the lift.  Again, like Vail, a very short window during peak (platinum) season so demand is high.  Also, the base and summit altitudes were much closer to sea level then Vail so the altitude didn't bother us near as much.

    So my overall point is this.  If like us, you are primarily concerned with trading value over time and don't plan on vacationing in the same location every year, I would look at purchasing a ski resort platinum week if you can get one.  It's basic supply & demand principles.  Everyone who wants to vacation at a ski resort in the Northern Hemisphere has about a 3 month window to do so compared to a 12 month window at most beach resorts.  Additionally, there are much fewere ski resorts worldwide then beach resorts so now you have the power of a high deman property with limited availability and timeframe during peak season.  Conversely, if you have a platinum beach resort, it might prove difficult to trade for a preferred week at a ski resort. 

    My wife and I have since traded our week at Marriott Mountainside without issue for a week in Ko Olina (twice), Tahoe (once) and Lake Tahoe (once).  We've also though of how cool it will be when the Winter Olympics come back to Park City and we're right in the heart of things.  Not to many Olympic beach destinations out there.  :-)

    So I guess my point is, while you may spend more up front for a ski resort compared to a Platinum week in HH.  If you're looking for long term trading value for you and your family (keep in mind some properties are deeded), it's likely a wise investment to get a ski resort week as you rarely will encounter problems exchanging it for other ski resorts and virtually any beach property.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    mikiegfla Platinum 4 Reviews
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    What 2MVCsLuvIt said now makes sense. I was under the impression that all deposits had equal opportunity to be accommodated but it appears that there is a hierarchy of priority based upon the type of week purchased. That explains a lot, thanks.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    kkas10 Silver
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    After taking a tour of Surf Watch at Hilton Head I dont think you have anything to worry about.  The sales consultant told us that Hilton Head is very hard to get because it is so popular.  I know I would love to go back and stay at Surf Watch.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    carolinacouple Platinum 2 Reviews
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    We own a platinum in Las Vegas.  First of all, I would never buy a timeshare I didn't want to use some of the time.  We decided to trade to Aruba over spring break.  Within one week we had a unit.  Simple and easy. 

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    mikiegfla Platinum 4 Reviews
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    To CarolinaCouple, was the exchange through Interval and was it for a 1 or 2 bedroom?

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    speed2burn Gold 1 Reviews
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    I have owned at Barony on Hilton Head since it was first built.  Have had no problems trading it anywhere.  Not sure of the success rate of Vail in the winter, but Aruba in the summer is not problem since I traded it there this summer.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    scubadivers Silver
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    We own 3 weeks in the platinum season at Marriott's Surfwatch on HHI.  We have never had any issues trading for Aruba, Spain, California.  It is really a matter of which resort you purchase at.  Surfwatch is the newest facility and has an extremely high trade value.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    seadude Platinum
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    Is there a lot for young kids to do at Surf Watch?

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    seadude Platinum
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    Hilton Head is beautiful.  We go there and have stayed at a couple of the MVC resorts.  We bought our MVC in Maui strictly for the trade and have always gotten what we wanted and usually an upgrade for what we were offering.  Marriott's name carrries some clout with the trade

    The sales reps when we bought ours told us that they would recommend Hilton Head (not Orlando) as the trade values were very good.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    carolinacouple Platinum 2 Reviews
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    To Speedburn,

    All trades within Marriott are through Interval International.  We own a one-bedroom and were given a one-bedroom in Aruba.  There was just two of us so it was great. 

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    mikiegfla Platinum 4 Reviews
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    Those looking to purchase now need to be careful when listening to the sales pitch that involves Marriott Rewards. Starting January 15th, Marriott is changing the schedule. The result of this new "enhancement" (their words, not mine) is the devaluation of up to 60% for some award levels over the current schedule.

    Don't let the salesforce con you into thinking that with the points you can check into a Marriott resort for a week instead of occupying your home resort. With the new schedule, it will be more like a Courtyard for 3 days.

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  • The Power of Timeshare
    tjcnewyork Platinum
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    FDRMass

     

    3 BR Platinum Hilton Head has excellent trading power for all your target exchange destinations across seasons. Here's why:

    • Marriot built 8 vacation club resorts on HHI and a high percentage of owners, 70% to 80% opt to occupy year after year.
    • About 14-21% of the owners who do not occupy, trade their week for points.
    • That leaves 6-9% who deposit their week with Interval, a relatively small number of unit weeks.
    • A 3BR is the most coveted villa because supply is limited.
    • Platinum is the season in demand.
    • For all the reasons above, you have 'exchange power'

     

    Vail Streamside has Studio, 1BR and 2BR villas.  Your 3BR villa gets you a 2BR villa plus the option for a Studio or 1BR villa at a very deep discount like $200 or less for 7 nights. Note: Marriott's Streamside at Vail does NOT participate in Marriott Rewards. http://www.marriottrewardsinsiders.marriott.com/topic/Insiders/Elites-Screwed-Streamside/13000003095&#msg13000005976

     

    Aruba has 2 Vacation Clubs, the Aruba Ocean Club and the Aruba Surf Club.  The Ocean Club has 1 BR and 2BR villas, but the Surf Club has 3 BR villas and 2 BR villas with a 1 BR lock-off unit.  In Aruba you have the exchange power to get a 3 BR villa or a combination as outlined for Vail Streamside. 

     

    Platinum gives added 'exchange power' for a coveted Week 52 vacation experience in Vail or Aruba  This is the week between Christmas and New Years - a very popular time for vacations.

     

    Hope this helps.

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  • Re: Marriott Timeshare
    tjcnewyork Platinum
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    To Almad:

     

    This may be water over the bridge, but prospective buyers should be aware that Marriott's Streamside at Vail including the Birch, Douglas and Evergreen vacation clubs are not currently participating in the Marriott Rewards program.* While this may not affect the trading exchange power through Interval International, Streamside owners do not currently enjoy the added flexibility to Trade for Points

     

    In the recent assignment of Marriott Vacation Club resorts to a Hotel Category, Streamside at Vail is excluded. If I understand this correctly, it means that owners and Marriott Rewards members cannot redeem the Pointsaver award, Redeem 4 Get the 5th Night Free at Birch, Douglas or Evergreen at Streamside at Vail.

     

    * MVCI owners may confirm this at My-VacationClub.com (Login required) 

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