How many times have we asked?
Well now Marriott have delivered!
You can now find your lifetime points counter by going to your account overview and clicking/tapping the 2014 nights detail. This now brings up not only the detail of your nights breakdown for the year but also a Platinum Lifetime tracker including both lifetime nights AND points.
This is what Insiders is all about - sharing info, travel tips, and ideas. A sincere tip of the cap to brightlybob for sharing this as soon as he saw it (also sharing on FT, where they only found out about it yesterday also).
Now here's the big news and why I meant sincere up above, (this is one time I'm not wisecracking); I have learned in baseball and business (as many of us have) never to assume anything - so always share, because as a team we might have overlooked things and the one time you think a partner knows something, they don't (as will be shown by the number of Insiders who learned of this through Bob's post).
Combined with what I am now more than ever, convinced that the CM on her own initiative, posted the Facebook only, How Can We Take Guest Loyalty to the Next Level? for us Insiders to be involved, excites me about the potential of Insiders becoming a "Go To" resource (which is important, because as we discussed just this week - the more participation, the more insights and ideas and the more valuable the forum to us, the traveler).
This also points out the value of making Blogs like threads because even a Featured Insider (with a mighty fine looking chunk of cake ) missed a post with 47 comments - blogs should stay active on the Big Board commensurate with participating replies (or else do like we sometimes do and link the blog to the Big Board).
Let's win where we can win (Insiders) and use that strength to attempt to at least neutralize the fanny kicking that Marriott often gives us, so eventually we can . See californian, sometimes cheerleading works.
There's a new sheriff in town and she knows how to play the game. Keep on keepin' on Insiders .
Thanks for that erc and yes, as you say I missed the blog that although scoring 47 comments both appeared, shot across the horizon of the first few pages and disappeared into the bowels of MRI forever during the few days I didn't access MRI! Marriott really needs to consider treating blogs like threads and keep them on the front page as long as they're scoring active comments from the community!
So at least this thread should extend the life of this news. A lifetime points counter certainly been repeatedly requested but it's not immediately apparent so hopefully this will help those who like me, were unaware of this long-awaited development...
ok, this is great news...
But now I'm curious to hear what kind of numbers the beyond-lifetime-platinum or uber-platinum or mega-plutoniums have accumulated....
So, let's hear it.... In the spirit of being totally arbitrary, for these purposes, speak up if you've accumulated, hmmm, let's say, 5 million points or more....
Anybody out there:
Hey, pingreeman, have you got a big number for us? Everyone else?
C'Mon now ssindc don't be shy...
I'll show you mine, if you show me yours....
479 nights... 1,647,000pts
Yeah, pathetic I know, but it's the best I can do
BostonFlyer on Flyertalk claims over 4,000 nights and 15,000,000pts!!! Like others, I'm not sure I'm jealous, that's a long time away from home and hearth, if indeed it's even worth paying a mortgage when spending that proportion of a life in hotels.
Yes, zukracer, like you I love my points, and burn as I earn. Currently planning a month in Toronto visiting relatives, with a fortnight Roadtrip all on points visiting Ottawa, Montreal, New York, Washington, Gettysburg and Niagara. Reckon that should blow out my current balance and everything I earn over the next year!
I am always happy with the value I get with Marriott, and do like the idea of lifetime elite status as my travel is very likely to diminish after the next year or 2 as my specialism becomes redundant and my work more generalised and local...
I wouldn't be surprised that in adding up Insiders who have recently departed or have cut way back on their Marriott stays the number of nights exceeds 20,000 nights and yet Marriott continues to hit record stock prices and earnings. Therein lies the root of the problem of the former uber-loyalist, no leverage. Very impressive pingreeman. By the way, if you opt in to the new program, at 4,306 nights you can earn a badge (and an additional 250 points) as Marriott's new way of "showing the love" .
And, NathalieF, as erc notes, someone (somewhere) should be be unhappy to see pingreeman's post indicating 6M+ accumulated lifetime points and, if I read it correctly, no Marriott stays in 2014 and no rollovers from 2013.... Maybe it's too late to win back that customer's business, but one would think it's worth a try... Just a thought....
WOW!!! But no nights this year?
Heres my stats:
Age: 28 (Joined at 25)
Hometown: Fernandina Beach, Fl
Average Nights Per Year: ~300
Total Nights with Marriott: 1289
Total Points Earned: 1,784,488 (currently in the middle of a 3 month stay at a marriott)
Do you use the Marriott Rewards Credit Card Linked to your account: No, my wife has it linked to hers.
kbscubadiver, I can't offer the official Marriott party line, but I feel pretty confident telling you that:
Thanks for the insight! Not to sound cocky or concieded, but I figured as far as age goes I thought I may be one of the youngest, if not the youngest with these kinds of stats. In 2012 I earned 427 nights... not including roll over nights. I was on 3 different assignments that allowed me to stay checked in for the entire length of the contract. 7 months in CT, 4 weeks in vegas, 4 weeks in Orlando, 2.5 months in Seattle. So I kept my room even when traveling home or on vacations and always stayed in marriott properties. 2012 was a great year for my rewards account
No, kbscubadiver, I don't think anyone would boast at spending several consecutive years in a middle-of-the-road hotel, indeed managing 60 nights in one year more than an actual year is true feat of organisation! Im pretty sure you've hit some kind of record here!
LIke everyone else here, it's taken several years of single night stays to crawl my way to 500 nights which I accomplished last night, it'll be 3 or 4 more years till I reach the 750 nights for LTPlat...
Ok kbscubadiver we've all blown enough smoke up your dress about your impressive accomplishment (and it is remarkable, a tip of the cap), now how about sharing the wealth? Toss up a photo of a moray eel, a nice coral reef, Steve Wynn's shark aquarium or at least a photo of Ariel from your month in Orlando. You've got a lot to share and no doubt some interesting perspectives, let's go man - hup, hup. Thanks
kbscubadiver - The numbers you post are almost ridiculous, but you are "fortunate" in that your company pays for the nights to which you do not stay but earn points. No offense, but I doubt I could put those expenses through a company's expense report and feel "good" about doing it - I would leave a bag behind the front desk during my absence - even if it means leaving a different bag at four different venues (usually left behind are toiletries which I hate removing through airport security).
One of the reasons I say the above is that I am self-employed where the money REALLY does matter, not a corporate giant. Price and cost matter to me as they are MY COSTS out of my pocket. On to your questions --->
I have zero nights in 2014 and my profile reflects prior years, "Here are my Marriott stays (PAID # of nights/year) over the last 10 years ('13 to '04): 23, 243, 168**, 190, 179, 208, 178, 212, 191, 217. Platinum Premier since 2004 (I don't believe in counting rollover nights). **Boycotted Marriott for 8 weeks otherwise would have had 200 exactly. 200 paid nights at Hilton 2013." Regular MRI members know my story and why the abrupt slowdown - no guaranteed suites on points and removal of free coffee from CY lobbies "forced" me to change brands (since switching to HH and SPG, I am still averaging 215 paid nights per year under those programs).
Your 2nd question - my profile shows I am in my 50's and travel for business. I have been doing so for about the last 25 years with almost all my hotel stays at Marriott brands with the exception of a year here-and-there when my client at the time either had no convenient Marriott nearby or requested me to stay at a venue to which they had a corporate rate for me to pass-thru my expenses. I was indeed a loyal MR member to the core.
While I "admire" in a strange way your numbers by age 28, TRUST ME, this pace will ultimately "burn you out." I suspect you work for one of the "big-5" consulting firms who are infamous for hiring youngsters straight out of college, working them hard and long, essentially chewing them up and spitting them out by age 30. In most of my client engagements, I work alongside many of these consultants and I see them leaving the big-5 consistently with few long-timers surviving beyond their 30's. Most leave to avoid travel and raise a family or simply because they find a better job with less travel. I predict the same for you within a few years given your pace and the fact you stated you are married.
Actually I am an Independent Contractor (I have my own LLC) and I work for multiple consulting firms, none of which are major consulting firms. I work in hospitals converting from paper charting to Electronic Medical Records. As I described above, my length of stay is usually pretty long. I meet with a sales executive for the hotel or for the area and negotiate a long term stay rate and sometimes I pay up front out of my own pocket and invoice the firm at the end of the project. I have gotten long term rates in the past as low as $69 a night and NO TAX. If I checked out at the end of the work week that rate would have been subject to the demand of the hotel or the season and could have been as high as $160-$180 PLUS TAX a night (keep in mind this would earn me more points). So which would you feel better about? A weekly invoice of $483 for your hotel? Or a weekly invoice as high as $950 for the exact same hotel? Or if it was coming out of your pocket (My current 3 month stay is coming out of my pocket, I took an "all inclusive" rate) which one would you rather pay? $483 or $950?
I love what I do and the money I make. I can do more things than any of my friends my age. I love the freedom I have, like this year I did not work from July to Oct. 1st. I do not allow myself to get burned out. My wife and I actually worked together for 3 years doing the same thing and sharing a hotel room and rental cars to keep the cost down for the Hospitals.
Be careful jumping to conclusions....
You may be correct - perhaps I jumped to some conclusions. I, like you, will negotiate my long-term stays as I will often be at the same client for 9-18 months (perhaps even 2 years), and like you, I will get better rates if I book a 7-day week versus 4 night per week. My "conclusion" perhaps was based on my own experiences - I have never gotten a negotiated rate where the 7-day rate is close to my best rate for a 4 or 5 day rate, hence I always have 2-3 days of empty rooms with the bag left behind the front desk over the weekend.
I love the fact you are an independent contractor like myself (I am incorporated in Illinois and file as an S-Corp vs. LLC). The freedom to work for ourselves cannot be measure by income alone - so your story makes more sense than I initially gave you credit. Like you, I took off for four months when my son was 12. I realized I had one chance as a dad to help coach his Little League team (who won the local playoffs and my son made the all-star team), so how do you put a price on that! No company would allow that type of sabbatical.
I presume your "no tax" scenario is because you DO weekends in your rates - as taxes cannot be charged for long-term stays where effectively, you are "renting" as a residence. One tip to share - whenever I have had 6+ months at one venue, I usually get the hotel manager to write me up a "guest letter of recommendation" which is essentially, "Mr PGM has been an excellent guest . . . . and when he originally suggested a long-term stay of 6 months, he not only met the 6 months but stayed for a total of ## months. Please take PGM for his word if/when he requests a long-term rate as he will likely exceed his initial estimated stay." It works wonders at getting the sales manager's attention and shows my intent is genuine. (I have actually gotten rates cheaper than airline employees.)
Impressive indeed!!! I have 1.960 million points and 938 nights. When I started traveling in 2007 my former company did not put limits on the marriot properties I could stay, so I would stay on the most expensive marriott properties, so points racked up quite fast. however, my present company are massive cheapskates, so I was forced to downgrade to a courtyard. I collected more nights, but made up less revenue.
As I mentioned in the other thread on this topic, I'll be the semi-grinch about this. Am I happy that after a few years of asking by Marriott elites Marriott finally decided to add this lifetime points in addition to lifetime nights to our account? Absolutely. (they probably did it because they wanted to reduce the calls to MRCS )
Here's the grinch part. Why move the lifetime nights & (now) lifetime points from the Account Overview where it displayed previously & hide it in the (fill in the year) night details section? That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having Lifetime info displayed in the Overview section makes more sense/logical.
And there are undoubtedly Marriott elites who aren't on Flyertalk or Insiders who won't know about the change/addition, so those calls to MRCS might not stop after all. Hey, they might even increase (ie, I used to be able to see my lifetime nights when I logged in & went to account overview. Where'd they go?).
Great addition and happy to hear Marriott Insiders do listen sometimes. I agree with skiadcock it would have made more sense to just put in the account overview but still very happy I can see my point total. I am wondering how often this is updated? It does not appear this is a live counter because my point balance did not change and I have a couple of stays that were just posted. Just wondering how often it is updated. Getting there ..have the nights but need the points for the Lifetime Platinum. A little tougher for me to reach that goal after 25 years of traveling because I don't always stay at Marriott's (although I try too everywhere I go) and I use the Government rate so unless I am staying in a high price metropolitan city like NYC (even the Government rate is $300 plus a night), takes awhile to reach that goal but almost there !
I'm with you about being pleased that we can now check categories by cumulatively checking each category to sum them up. It's a shame though that we can't just check the boxes and then have them all show up. We must check Cat. 1, go to a screen, then check Cat.2, go to a screen, then check Cat.3, go to a screen etc. But it is an improvement, I have learned to take whatever improvement Marriott IT can scratch out.
Now, if I could get them to allow me to focus on the 8-15 area hotels I want, rather than the 150 they offer, I'd be far more efficient in my reserving Marriott brand properties.