September 15th (usually). How many nights did you log in, in order to capture the 25k bonus? Thanks for playing along.
ps - so that folks don't think ccschmidt doesn't read, I added the 9/15 Fall Date in Original Post after he/she asked
Well played. I'll check back around Labor Day (once again, more of a threat than a promise ) to see how many points you netted from the total promotion and how many nights it required to net those points.
To vickers and all other upcoming posters
One of the things I want to discover from the input, is the comparative value of bonus points to certificates (yes, realizing that to many they have little value and that any points help some folks move closer to Lifetime status). Again, number of nights are important, because if it takes something like 14 total nights to accumulate 15,000 bonus points, then the player would have been better off with the Second Level offer and is not truly a "bottom feeder, gobbling up the value of certificates".
Thanks for your input vickers, go man, go!
Thanks for sharing. That was what some of the FlyerTalkers were discussing. Of course, you don't need me reminding you, but keep an eye out, because the longer it goes, the harder it becomes (although, Marriott will eventually work it out, but no one wants to spend phone calls and time to assure).
Good luck to you. If you don't see something in a week, jump back in and we'll have KatieC track down a 'specialist' and nail those points to your account . Thanks for participating in the thread.
My points still haven't posted so I sent a note off looking for an update.
Our stay at Frenchman's reef was our 3rd stay so we could earn almost the full 25k bonus points from that stay. There was also another promo in the Caribbean for extra 5k points per night max of 20k. Nice bonus if we really get both.
That's the way to play it, heavy back end (once qualified) expenses, nice job. Remember, in dealing with Marriott Rewards, "expect what you inspect", stay on them, they will give you what you earned, it's just that it's not always as smooth as it should be (for example, already they didn't meet their own "Points posted within 3-5 days of earning").
Thanks for sharing the info and congratulations on maxing out.
So after contacting Marriott Rewards, they posted our 'double points'. Interesting though we only received double points on the base # we earned, not the full amount including elite points. Hmmm. I guess the vagueness of the T&C would explain why I only got on the base points. I shouldn't have expected the full value.
Wow, sorry to hear that (I liked above in appreciation for you sharing the info). Well, welcome to Insiders and stick around, we'll all make up for those points lost with good travel ideas and cost savings. Thanks for sharing your experience.
ps - A reminder: for those who need to call Marriott Rewards and get 'the robot' on the phone if you want to quickly bypass his inability to help, just say "I want to combine Marriott accounts" - you then are promptly transferred to a human.
I'm not unsurprised to hear that, but I am (like erc) grateful that you posted to let us know that the doubling is only applied to base points. That's too bad, especially given that (in cases like yours) expensive shorter leisure stays can max out the cap pretty darned quickly.
Did they end up posting the extra 20k bonus you mentioned? I'm not entirely thrilled with the limited/targeted/discontinued promotions that it appears Marriott is going towards, but allowing us to 'stack' promos is definitely a perk that makes the program significantly more worthwhile. I don't often care exactly where I stay (I get plenty of points for car rentals too, lol) so I'll be glad to know for sure that property specific bonus offers are still being honored even during these faux-megabonus promos.
Also wanted to note......We added a stay prior to this trip to be able to max out the 25k with our trip to Frenchman's Reef.
They have not posted the extra 20k bonus yet. They said they needed more information (name of promo, terms of promo, etc). The only documentation I had on this promo was the email confirmation from our reservation. I think it was a Caribbean promotion? Hopefully they will be able to stack this promo!
So they finally posted the 20k promo points.
Here is one interesting note. We made a stay in Denver last weekend and our 'double points' were just posted. We got double points on the full points we earned (base + elite).....so each hotel treats it differently? Not sure why Frenchman's Reef only posted double on the base. Hmmm.
I normally get the lowest tier bonus, but for this one, I received the 15 nights = 25k, plus 10K points for 5 more nights (a maximum of 35K for 20 nights).
As of the end of July, I have 10 nights with 5 more paid nights (plus one cert from last year) already booked in mid August. I'll reach 15 nights, but don't see any chance of getting 20. So I'll earn the 25k.
I actually lucked into a 3 night business trip in June. Without this I'd be trying to find a way to get 3 more nights before the end of August to earn the bonus.
Looking at my average dollar spend, there is no way I would have earned anywhere near the max 25k available on the double points after 2 stays offer, so I'm pleased with what I got.
erc, It's been nice running with the high rollers all summer, but I'm returning to the bottom feeder ranks beginning in September.
Welcome back pal, we've missed you!
Hopefully they'll return those Certs that you and I find value in (unless your post over there in the More Like This Column Re: Is it time to retire the category 1-4 certificates? provides Marriott the 'cover' ("after listening to our customers, we've heard they don't want Certificates, so as a favor to you, we've killed them") .
Let's hope Marriott actually read the comments on that thread and upgrades the certs permanently to cat 1-5.
As card carrying members of the Promotional Certificate Fan Club, let's look forward to celebrating their return with the fall MegaBonus (whatever category they may be).
PS - as they like to say on the Network News (you know, those TV shows with all the prescription drug ads for ailments you didn't know you had - apparently Restless Legs has been cured ) for purposes of full disclosure;
1) I didn't receive an e-mail offer (I haven't the past six promotions)
2) Whereas I normally don't, this time I had a promo offer in Promotions in My Account
3) It was/is 35,000 for 20 nights
4) I didn't bother calling in an attempt to change (previously I was 3 for 3, the other 3 were what I wanted) since I didn't have enough Marriott nights (plenty of stays, just not Marriott, remember; Travelzoo ) to play, and instead used Certificates and points for the Marriott nights I had.
5) I harbor no hard feelings, (hear that Marriott? , don't be cruel to me in the Fall MegaBonus)
You give me too much credit my friend...It's been a LONG time since I've been a hellraiser.
It's been a slow travel summer for me since we have been shorthanded at work and I've had to deal with some recent family issues. I have two stays under my belt now for this promotion and hoping to make another weekend stay before the end of August which will result in double points. The certs promo would have been better for me also. I do have some Fall travel planned so hopefully I can make good use of the Fall Megabonus.
Thank you for your feedback and insights. That's essentially what I'm attempting to discover; however low value the Certificates are perceived as (and many of us 'bottom feeders' make a use for them) how does that value stack up against a real live counter bonus offer for folks who are in the 5-10 night stay range.
Ok, certificate naysayers, who were excited with the double points offer (and granted, played properly it does represent some significant potential) please chime in.
And all other players who received the lowest tier of offers, let us know your 'real world' experience.
thanks to all
I called and changed to double points after 2 stays. I have 3 stays to date and will have one more before the promotion is over. I guess I will have to call to get the extra points. This promotion has not been that great and did not lure me into several extra stays or nights. I did one change from points to paid to enhance my benefit.
Thanks for the info cal. You're like me and some others who have always found a way to use a Certificate, so with four stays you would have snagged two certificates, unless you have a pretty significant length of stay in your upcoming 4th stay, it's going to be hard to beat the value of the two certificates.
PS - to all participating posters, first off, thanks and second like pluto77 mentioned in an earlier thread, the Summer offer is often a bit of a twist from the Fall and Spring MegaBonus and does not alway have Certificates. The upcoming Fall offer will be the proof of the pudding of whether they have killed the certs or not. I'm just interested in how the double points paid off - thanks
My first stay was 1 night, 2nd stay was 1 night, 3rd was 2 nights and the forth will be 1 night. I should end off with about 5,000 bonus points. I would have been much farther ahead with 2 certificates. I travel enough and put enough time in to find a use for the certificates.
Marriott has always made out in offering them to me since I pretty much always add extra stays, sometimes several.
I am using Hilton more and more. I am gold and am treated comparably to what I get from Marriott. Hilton gives double points beginning with stay 1.
Recalling what you wrote last week, this caught my eye in the paper this weekend;
Triple points for Fridays/Saturdays/Sundays August 1st through October 31st
Thanks for sharing, you're the perfect test case. In a certificate world (regardless of perceived value) you would have earned a certificate (in a MegaBonus). So it will be interesting to see how your August plays out. Please keep us posted. Thanks.
You are another excellent 'test case'. You have virtually no use for the certificates due to your location and you were anticipating a big July stay that would help you come close to maxing out on the double points. If you were able to make that trip and become eligible for bonus points;
1) Did they post in the 3-5 days as the T & C stated?
2) Was the significant number you were anticipating?
Thanks for any input
Oh Lord! I really should go in the home for the bewildered cos I can't remember what I originally posted!
But what has happened is that I have completed one stay. I have another stay this month for 9 days. I won't have any further stays in the promo time period. So whatever incentive they gave me by way of double points or nights stayed, no way would I have achieved it. If, however, the points were double for the second stay instead of after the second stay, I would get a considerable number of extra points.
But as it is I will get zilch, nothing, nada!
Aah, that's too bad, close but no cigar; but thanks for responding.
Well if they ever do toss some certificates your way, either take the Mrs. down to the Bristol Marriott (the only Cat. 4 in your home country) or hope that a Moxy opens up soon nearby and go hang with the Millennials . Thanks for the input, good luck in the Fall.
Sorry Tommo781 you were right (don't want you thinking you were getting batty).
Why I thought you were a good test case was that you were spending a significant number of nights but only two stays so as you stated, you don't receive anything in the double points bonus either (as opposed to before where you would have received a Cat. 1-4 Certificate but of little value due to geographic constraints).Too bad you couldn't find a 'cheapie' stay prior to your blockbuster 9 nighter (which would then qualify for double points). Sorry for the mix up.
I like californian's Hilton idea - double points right out of the box
This promotion came at just the right time for me. I had a business trip planned for 10 days in San Juan which resulted in 7,000 bonus points. I should have another few nights in Marriott's by the end of the month so I'll likely land up with an extra 10,000 points. Not quite enough for a free stay, but appreciated.
Glad to hear that mikiegfla. As a big dog Road Warrior (London, Paris, Amsterdam, NY, LA, Vegas etc etc), you timed it perfectly for being tossed down into the weeds with us junior varsity players. Ouch, that 10 night stay would have hurt had it been for a certificate only.
I wonder since you had at least three stays to qualify for the double bonus (meaning 12 nights minimum) if you wouldn't have been better off with the 12 night - 20,000 points offer. Arne, what's mikiegfla doing hanging around with me? Move this guy back into the majors!
Good stuff, thanks for sharing and good luck toward maxing out.
Well, the first day returns are in and as a fan of the Certificates, I must say, I'm not overwhelmed with the power of the Double Points bonus.
Channeling pingreeman I submit the chart below with the following relatively conservative assumptions:
1) The first two stays (necessary for qualification) were single night stays
2) There were no Residence Inn or Town Place nights (which only grant five points per $1)
3) The Reward member is a Platinum earning the 50% bonus (Gold 25% Silver 20%)
4) Marriott rewarded Double Points for #3 Bonus Points
I used these three models to show nights requirement in order to max out with 25,000 points
Ave. night spend $100 $150 $200
Points per night
w/Plat bonus 1500 2250 3000
Nights required for
25,000 points bonus 16 11 8
# of qualifying nights 2 2 2
Two stay requirement
Total # of nights 18 13 10
My first day conclusion: If you didn't find value in the Certificates, then any points earned, made you a winner.
If, like me, you found value in Certificates (I can get $150 nights for Cat. 4 and $250 nights for Cat. 5, but I live in DC), then IF Marriott continues this Double Points Bonus as the lowest tier bonus, you lose.
Ok, off to Richmond to stay at a friend's (weekend poker tournament) place who doesn't award any points!
Enjoy your ercfree weekend and thanks for participating today. Keep on keepin' on Insiders.
erc, I didn't even attempt this bonus. Since the initial word from Marriott was that it only applied to the third pay stay, I didn't think it was worth it to mattress run two stays to obtain the bonus points. This bonus fell during a time of no travel for me, except for the one upcoming in Maui. But, sounds like what was originally convey to us isn't what happened. If I knew I could get the bonus after the first stay, I would definitely had gone for it!
For the record, I hate these "stay" bonuses. What if I were going to stay 5 nights for the first stay, but then only 1 or 2 nights for the next 2 stays? But then again, would it be better if it were based on nights? Hard to say, but I'm a pessimist when it comes to these things
Don't feel bad, in spite of jackstraw22's good fortune of receiving points after only the first stay, that is the exception not the norm (nor the policy). They continue to discuss on FlyerTalk folks not receiving points after the second stay (Marriott did face ambiguity in the beginning, several players felt they actually changed terms midway), so perhaps this is another example of a 'beta' test.
jack613 and bubbie I see where both of you were active in the forum over the weekend with Niagara Falls (and I agree, if you have time, it's worth a trip to Niagara on the Lake for the flowers, meals, wineries, and theatre, if in season) and Las Vegas, you guys received the double bonus points offer; how are the two of you doing with the posting of double points? Thanks
i used one free night from the credit card at a gorgeous cat 4 the park ridge marriott in new jersey.(full service marriott ) that was in early july. i plan on staying in cleveland and then niagara falls the week of august 17. that would leave with 2 stays during the bonus period and the double points offer only starts after the second stay. for me i will not gain anything out of it as i will only have 2 stays.
Promotions need to be both achievable and meaningful. If there is no chance of reaching a promo goal, why try. Likewise if the bonus isn't worth earning, there is no point in adding extra nights or stays to earn it. The way this promotion was structured, double points failed on the second count, and for most leisure travelers reaching 12 nights to earn 20k points failed on the first one.
I added 2 extra nights to my already planned travels to hit 15 nights so I could earn my bonus. If I weren't already close, I wouldn't have made the attempt.
I was auto enrolled in the 25K for 20 nights promo. Called MR and got it changed to double points after 2nd stay, etc. But my adjusted points will not appear on by account till the promo ends. So although I've got 2 or 3 that will be worth something, won't know for sure till after 8/31.
I'll take Cat 1 thru anything certs over this points promo any day.
I agree nuhusker, that's why I seldom complain about any of the Marriott Rewards benefits (pricing quirks and P.I.T.A. Greater Team communication explanations or silences yes; benefits no). In this sellers' market, keeping what we have and playing the game accordingly, is challenging enough. Thanks for sharing your info.
Given the pace of change at Marriott and the past history of listening to Insiders it's a bit of a stretch to think we had anything to do with the lack of promo certs for the summer promotion. More likely is marketing is looking for a more profitable way to appear generous without actually doing so.
That said, if promo certs don't make a return come fall, we'll all be begging for them to come back.
I Just earned all 25K points. After staying 2 nights, I had 11 nights to hit the 25K. I probably hit it after 8 nights as I had a 6 night stay on my most recent trip.
It would have been great to have a next level where you could get extra bonus points if you earned the target and had 30 days remaining.....
Well whatever it is, it normally opens or is announced by about now with a 9/15 - mid January period and runs with higher maximums. I believe last one maxed out at 50k (yep, found it, see below). Last fall is looking pretty good right about now
vickisocal is the MegaBonus archivist keeping records back to 1957, so if she's in the neighborhood perhaps she can share a historical perspective.
If we have one, it will be announced by the automaton we know as NathalieF
ps - when I bust chops over the community manager, it's not because I'm heartbroken over not having a community manager (as helpful as Andy was, the social moderating team is doing just fine rounding up info for us), rather it's because Andy left in late April and I find it hard to picture Marriott taking more than three months to fill the position, why not just inform us, "we've moved in a different direction and will not operate with a CM anymore"? No big whoop.
Ever so slightly off-topic, but having been skunked on the Summer Getaway Bonus, yesterday I received a promotional "Welcome Back" offer: my usual (and gratefully acknowledged) bonus offer of "Earn one cat.1-4 night cert after every 2nd paid stay, limit of two." Register by Aug 5 (done) and stay by November 30. I should be able to eke out at least one promo cert by then.
Bottom feeders' frenzy upon hearing of new promo.
No, I don't think I'm up there in bejacob's rarefied stratum.
Sort of strange to get a "welcome back" when I have more nights stayed at this point in the year than usual. But they've all been rewards redemption, and that's probably what's driving it. What remains to be seen is whether I'll get any sort of Fall Mega-Bonus offer -- should there actually be a FMB (and I'm betting there will be.) Either way, I'm glad to have this one.
"Welcome back." Nice one, foxglove. Go on, try to earn both promo certificates and show Marriott that when a bonus makes sense, it's worth achieving it. Good luck!
I'm counting on the FMB to round out the year and hopefully start the new one with a couple promo certs. Of course, they'll probably give me some crazy points offer I could never hope to achieve meaning a call will be in order to change it since I'll be rejoining the bottom-feeders. That's the bad thing about rarefied status, it's hard to maintain.
I'm new to Marriott, and am only just switching my fairly regular (typically one night a week) bookings over to their properties. That apparently meant I was assigned the first offer, which really isn't great for folks who regularly stay at $100 a night Courtyards and the like. Fortunately, I had a family trip planned in a 'nicer' hotel, so I'll still be able to max out the bonus as long as I get points for the second room I booked and paid for.
Hopefully in the future I'll be offered or allowed to switch to one of the better promos - it would take 27 of my normal stays to max out the bonus I was assigned, which would get me twice the points - 50k - in the highest promo.
In any event, if I'm not given bonus points on the second room (so far, I haven't even had my base points awarded for that one - but I did get ~9k base + ~9k bonus awarded on the first room) I'd have been better off sticking with a less expensive hotel in St. Augustine, and they'll likely lose me for future domestic leisure stays during similar promotions. We shall see...
Welcome to the team glygrl and thanks for jumping right in and sharing. I'm pretty confident that by now Marriott has locked down their bonus rules and have determined it will be after the second stay that generates bonus points, but as jackstraw22 demonstrates above (1st reply), it's that Marriott Rewards is famous for being consistently inconsistent.
Which leads to the next point, if you do get a Fall Bonus Offer (if we have one ) that you don't like, indeed, like you say, call again and ask for a different one, and if that rep says you can't change, depending on how much you feel your specific bonus is worth (ability to obtain and the payout) then it's worthy of at least one or two more calls. There have been numerous examples of Insiders being rejected the first time only to have it changed on the next call to a different rep.
Thanks for your input and welcome to Insiders.