According to local media this morning, the Waikoloa Beach Marriott Resort & Spa is being sold. I hope the new owners retain Marriott as the hotel operator!
One can only hope for either continued management or a new property! It was shocking to me to hear about this sale, especially given the high occupancy rates we've been experiencing across the state the past couple of years... Either way, I hope Marriott maintains a full service presence on the Big Island.
I would think that Marriott would want a FSM on the big island. At one tike they considered timesharing a property next to or near it. Apparently they changed there mind and so that particular property is not as important to them.
To me, it is in a very good location and actually has a beach, near a shopping center with restaurants and near the Hilton that has a lot to offer. However, it is a drive to Kona.
I couldn't agree with you more. Despite it's distance from Kona, Waikoloa is a very nice place with good amenities. And, while I haven't stayed (but would like to stay) and the Waikoloa Marriott, I agree that the Marriott does have a very good location within the overall resort! It would be a shame for MR members to loose this great redemption option... I think it would be even more detrimental to Marriott to loose it as a redemption option too, as like for airline programs, Hawaii is a key destination for attracting loyalty program members. It wouldn't make sense for them to weaken their position as opposed to Hilton... But then again, we question a lot of what's been going on lately anyway right?
Apparently, the hotel is currently owned by Blackstone Group (Hilton). I wonder who could possibly be purchasing the property? I guess we'll find out soon enough.
I know occupancy rates fluctuated quite a bit for the Big Island, dipping as low as high 60%. However, as of the first of this month, occupancy is up around 80% and average rates are much higher than they were last year. Overall, Hawaii has been quite strong last year and will continue to be this year. So much so that I'm having a hard time getting kama'aina rates at Marriott's Waikiki properties (though Starwood has kama'aina rates available... strange...).
If you are from the U.S., why not. They take our $, the breeze is always cooler to eliminate the Mexico humidity, and the views are spectacular. We are never going back to Mexico regardless of how safe we are told the resorts are in Cancun, Ixtapa or Puerta Vallarta. Ixtapa is awesome but not like Hawaii!!!
IAHFLYR, I hope you don't have to experience our VOG. When the trade winds die off and southern winds take over (or no winds at all), then the humidity goes through the roof, the temperature rises, and the islands get covered in a thick, suffocating blanket of volcanic emissions! It's really horrible and can cause a lot of respiratory issues, especially for those with asthma. BUT, VOG does make for incredibly vibrant sunsets. The most red/orange sunsets I've seen were when we were blanketed in VOG. Everything is always a tradeoff here I guess!
But, onto another point. With more and more direct flights to Hawaii, it's getting easier and easier to get here. I just hope Hawaiian isn't over expanding and compromising its financial stability. They've been having some incredible rates here and there! Like about $500 roundtrip HNL-NYC!
Californian, I'm truly sorry you had to endure that. Unfortunately, last year scientist had said that Hawaii has seen a downward trend in the number of trade wind days we have, and they expect the trend to continue. They don't know why its happening, but it is... so, that means VOG days will continue to be more, and more common so long as Kilauea continues to erupt. I have mixed feelings about this because I love to go and watch the volcano, but I really hate the VOG...
I was on Oahu some years ago and the radio told people to stay inside with the windows closed because of the VOG. I could not see the mountain that was not that far away. I cheated and did go out for a short time for each of the 5 days that it lasted. I lost 5 days out of 12. It does make me think when reserving a room there at the prices that are charged.
This last time on Maui, my eyes were burning and it made me feel tired. NO fun.
Yeah, generally when there's a forecast for heavy VOG, they advise people to remain indoors and in AC if possible. But, most typically don't heed this unless they know they react badly to the VOG. No biggy for most so long as you don't do more physical activities. At the very least, it is quite uncomfortable though. As you have said, burning eyes and a feeling of fatigue are quite common. Definitely no fun!
The VOG has returned! This morning started clear and ended quite hazy. No new news on the Waikoloa Marriott, BUT... the Modern Honolulu, formerly the Waikiki Edition, is having labor issues. The union voted to authorize a strike today! Karma? Perhaps... I'm still disappointed the owners of this property has such unrealistic expectations and forcibly ousted Marriott as property manager... Excuse being Marriott wasn't doing enough to promote the property... as if the property gets any advertisements now!
Californian & Pluto77,
No, no news on the Waikoloa. I was referring to the former Waikiki Edition. The owners initiated a "coup" and ousted Marriott management illegally because the hotel didn't turn a profit it's first year and felt that Marriott hasn't done enough to promote the property, though the new managers (Aqua Hotels & Resorts Hawaii) have maintained the status quo in terms of promotion. I just thought it was ironic that they're now having labor issues.
I've still got my fingers crossed for the Waikoloa Marriott!!
I will let you folks know if I see see any updates!
Sorry, I didn't see this post! Probably due to all the site issues lately...
Anyway, I haven't heard any new news yet, but I did find a more detailed article from Kona based West Hawaii Today newspaper.
The article says Marriott is unable to determine whether or not it will continue to manage the property at this time. At any rate, I'll be sure to post any information I come across!
Yup, this is very true. Which is why Marriott probably hasn't said anything themselves. Then again, if loyalty doesn't matter any more, then why not? The only people a sale with management change would affect would be us. Those that don't participate in such programs won't care, as there should be minimal disruption to day-to-day business...
I've only stayed at the Hilton in Waikoloa, but oyster.com's evaluation of the Waikoloa Marriott show very nice rooms.
Perhaps the renovations have been done. I do remember one problem that I had was the maid washed the glasses in the room as opposed to replacing them with sanitized ones. I had to complain several times and they finally brought some clean glasses but put them with the dirty ones for me to sort through. I am particular as to having the glasses sanitized, especially between guests.
I haven't spent much time in Hawaii, so I'll admit that I don't have a clue when it comes to Hawaiian accomodations, but from all I've seen, I get the distinct impression that many of the hotels are old and tired looking. Is that true? On the big island, both Waikoloa and Kamehameha look rather dated. Makes it hard to get excited about paying upwards of $300/night for a room during peak season.
Unfortunately, this is definitely true. There are the exceptions, like the beautifully renovated (and historic) Royal Hawaiian Hotel (aka the Pink Palace of the Pacific), the Sheraton Waikiki, and even the Kahala Hotel, but most other hotels are very dated and some try to push the "Hawaiian theme" too much, and just make it cheesy. Some industry people have said that the condition of the properties and the prices being charged for them are hurting the industry, especially for wealthier travelers, etc. Even the JW Marriott Ihilani, while a beautiful and serene property that just came off a wonderful renovation, could have been updated even better. I do really like the rooms, but it just feels like they could have done more, especially to the public space...
I must say, Disney did a pretty good job of capturing an island feel without making it too cheesy, though it's still a bit touristy...
but their bed isn't all that comfortable... hard to beat a Marriott bed!
Since you might just do this, I will give you the details of what I did. The Nordstroms near me didn't stock the bed, they had to order one and it took over 4 weeks. I didn't want to wait. I found that Westin puts a private label on it's mattresses and realized that I just might be able to get the same one without the name. I checked to find out which of the regular mattresses they used. I checked it out and it felt the same or close enough that I didn't notice the difference. I purchased that one for considerable less money and had it delivered almost immediately.
Alright guys & gals, the sale date has passed and now we know the Waikoloa Beach Marriott's fate...
She will remain a Marriott!! To my surprise, Outrigger Hotels & Resorts sold both the Waikoloa Beach Marriott AND the Wailea Marriott to the Blackstone Group. Both properties will remain Marriotts, though Blackstone has stated they will begin renovations at both properties soon.
Sure is! I never expected to see Wailea being sold... I actually thought it was a Marriott owned property. But I'm glad it'll remain Marriott and will be renovated... I'm glad both properties will remain Marriott and see some TLC! I am interested to see what changes will be made too though
kharada46 do you happen to have any updates on the CY they are opening on the North Shore?
Unfortunately, the latest news is the hotel is being scaled back. From a nice 4-story, 222 room property, to a smaller, more generic looking 144 story property. Plans are progressing, but behind. Groundbreaking was to occur the first half of 2013, but only now is the development site being cleared of the existing buildings.
This site should be updated on the progress:
FYI, Laie's largest landowner is the Mormon Church, and this new CY is intended to be not only a hotel for people that want to stay on that side of the island, but will also serve as a place that students at BYUH can intern at.
Thanks for the update Kyle and the update link. Having interns at hotel is sometimes a much better thing. I know the many times I've stayed at the https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/rswap-courtyard-fort-myers-at-i-75-and-gulf-coast-town-center/ the interns from Florida Gulf Coast University and they are always great to deal with as well as letting you know if they are not sure of the policy, but will always find an answer.
That's great to hear! Hopefully it all works out for the best sooner rather than later. This property was announced a very long time ago! It keeps getting delayed, but such are things in Hawaii... especially in more rural areas where residents tend to be much more vocal against change
Hawaii is famous for opposition to change! The most upsetting one was when Hawaii Superferry was forced to cease operations and liquidated thanks to law suits by environmentalist groups that claimed it would cause enormous harm to the environment and to anit-development groups on Maui and Kauai. The funny thing was the surfers on Kauai that were most opposed to the Superferry couldn't even pronounce the island's name properly.
I regret not being able to take a ride... what a wonderful way to travel to the inter-island! No need to even rent a car!