Staying 4 nights for work at St. Pancras Renaissance Hotel in London and will take conveniently located train to Paris. Thinking of staying at Renaissance Paris Arc de Triomationphe Hotel--is it near the train station? Thoughts about the St. Pancras and Renaissance Paris Arc de Triomationphe Hotel Do they have concierge lounges or give free breakfast vouchers for Gold Elite?
Thanks for any insights or suggestions for my 1st trip to London and Paris.
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Just stayed at the St. Pancras Renaissance Hotel in London, and it is extremely convient and a very interesting hotel historically.
I did take the underground from Heathrow directly to the hotel for 5 GBP, so you can not beat that price. Its about 20+ stops and takes approximately 1 hr. It was actually closer to the terminal than any other option (cab stand, limo pickup and express train to paddington and not train change required).
Leaving by train is also very easy, as the bellman will take you and your luggage to either the Eurostar which is just outside the door of the hotel, or the National Rail which is at the otherside of the complex which is where I had to get my high speed train to dover.
This is definately the most convenient, and reasonable location to stay for ground transportation options. I would call/email the hotel for directions out of the St. Pancras underground. I took the wrong station exit, and had a much longer walk, though inside the complex. The bellman told me there is a way to exist the underground and be right at the front door of the hotel. Also, when approaching the hotel from the complex, the signage to the hotel is almost non-existent. It is just a restaurant at the end of the Eurostar tracks (upper level). There is a doorman so you can ask there, but you walk through the restaurant to get to the lobby.
The concierge is fabulous. Food all day long, as breakfast turns into tea turns into shorties before dinner turns into dessert. There is full butler service so you do not get your drinks. Just pick up the food, tell the butler what you want, and they bring the beverage to your table. They also return to get you refills. The lounge itself is quite large and comforatble.
The only complaint I had, as a platinum lifetime is with my upgrade. They claim they gave me an upgarde, but I had to ask if they did cause I could not tell the difference. If you want to stay in the tower with the historic rooms, you need to book in that category (more expensive) that then qualifies you to an upgrade in the tower.
Never had a Marriott do that to me. Usually I stay at Grosvenor or County Hall, and book the lowest room category and have just about always been upgrade to a suite at Grosvenor, or oversized room or suite with water view at County Hall which has a fabulous view. Neither a convenient located for train transit which is why I stayed at St. Pancras and would again if using train travel.
I also learned that St. Pancras is the first of many grand hotels located on the British Rail system that has been renovate. Appranetly there are alot of grand old hotels that are still in operation, and quite reasonable as they have not been rennovated.
On the bucket list, is a trip where I buy a British Rail Pass and travel around by train and stay in these grand old hotels, hopefully before rennovated.
When I am in Paris, I generally stay at Marriott La Defense as its at the Parisian hub and large shopping complex, very modern and comfortable. You may want to read the threads from other Marriott Insiders who book hotels based on ambiance and scenic street locations if this is your preference.
Other Paris threads to check
See if you can find my posts on taking the Eurostar!
It had a lot of good information that will be helpful to you.
If not, I will give you some recommendations on making that trip easier and cheaper.
From your hotel in London, you have a great set up, and take GP's advice from Heathrow, that trip would cost you a minimum $100 by taxi.
Us Insiders will have many more things to share with you prior to your trip!
Please let me know if you have specific questions!
If you get into the VIP lounge, they can help arrange a taxi for you upon arrival!
Likewise, I have always bought coach (Or the lowest price tickets} AT THE EUROSTAR ticket counter at least two days prior to departing. This is where a Concierge can greatly help you out.
Prepare yourself for an airline type security check in. Take you favorite beverages and snack, and walk around the train. Don't forget your camera!
To the best of my knowledge, the Eurostar orginates in London at the St. Pancras Internationl Train Station.
There are 2 stops prior tot he chunnel for passengers to get on, but they would not let me buy a ticket from London to either of these stops to get to Dover. Instead I had to take the National Rail high speed train from platforms on the other side of the station, and the platforms are not connecte, so you need to go down to the mall level, walk across and then take the elevator up to the train platform.
Looks like the Eurostar has a special on now for 63 GPBP each way.
These are the Eurostar stations
and you can use the Oyster Card for this (will try to find the threads on this discussion that we had awhile ago on the various London Groud Transportation options of which the oyster is one of many)
Save time and money with a Visitor Oyster card
Buy a Visitor Oyster card before you travel to London and you’ll be able to step off the Eurostar straight into the heart of the action, rather than into a queue for an underground ticket. This rechargeable smart card is cheap, flexible and easy to use.
For a detailed discussion of ground transportation options in London, please read the following thread
Having taken the Eurostar from Paris to London a dozen or so times, I never remember stopping in either direction.
It may be a special train that stops.
I could be wrong, but I have taken the train from London to Paris, had dinner and returned that evening, and it was not a late night. It was around 2 hours and 15 minutes each way.
I have not stayed at St. Pancras, primarily because it is a very,, very place. It is a great place for tube and Eurostar connections!
I would always buy my ticket on the Eurostar at St. Pancras, two days in advance.
Would go non-stop to Paris.
No need to do anything but the lowest price tickets. Enjoy the lounge on the way. If you have a Platinum or Black AMEX, you will be able to relax in the VIP Lounge!
Here is the eurostar timetable.
Some trains will stop at Ebbsfleet and Ashford.
It is much better if you can get the non stop service.
I just returned from a 10 day trip to London and Paris.
In London I stayed at the Renaissace St. Pancras. The hotel is very nice and a perfect location if you are taking a train from that station (my goddaughter and I took the early morning Eurostar to Paris) or if you are taking the tube from the Kings Cross station. I have always stayed on Park Lane but this hotel was more convenient to the train and to where my goddaughter lives and I would not hesitate to stay at the St. Pancras if she remains in the same location. The staff are very helpful and nice.
While the hotel does have a lounge, unfortunately, St. Pancras Renaissance is not participating in the Executive/Concierge lounge project and therefore the courtesy of Chambers Club access is extended only to Platinum members. However the Gold member still get complimentary breakfast in our Booking office restaurant, tea or coffee in the afternoon in our Hansom Lounge and a bottle of Camden beer or a glass of house wine together with selection of snacks either in the Hansom Lounge or Booking office bar and restaurant. I only actually ate at the hotel one time and that was at the Booking Office located in the train station. I would not recommend this restaurant. The food, when we finally got it, was not great and the service was terrible.
If you are taking the Eurostar to Paris, the concierge will arrange for a bellman to take you and your luggage to the train. If you have VIP tickets on the train or are in one of their suites, they will take you directly to your train and put your luggage on the train.
The train to Paris is great. In a little over two hours you are there. We stayed at the Marriott Champs Elysees for 4 nights. I found the hotel to be a good location for us as we walked up and down the Champs Elysees and were also able to walk to the Christmas market that was taking place. If you haven't been to Paris before, I would definitely recommend taking a nighttime cruise on the Seine. During December it gets dark early, so we took a 5PM cruise only on the Bateaux Mouches. They also offer a dinner cruise which I took many years ago. We did not take it this time as it does not depart until 8:30PM my goddaughter does not like to eat too late and there were not enough options on the menu that she would like.
After Paris, we returned to London on a late afternoon train, where we were met by a bellman from the hotel to take us back to the Renaissance.
Rather than add a lot of links for pictures, here is a link for my pictures on Facebook.
Enjoy your trip. If I can answer any questions just let me know.
Thanks for clarifying the lounge access at the St. Pancras for Gold elite. We are flexible for where we stay in Paris. Looks like will do points for two nights and pay for the third night-- currently have reservations at Renaissance Paris Arc de Triomphe Hotel.
Thanks again to all for the great suggestions and advice. Looking forward to April.
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