Have at it Insiders - what does everyone think? (wonder if this applies to Lifetimes - hope, hope)
Thanks for the link.
This is interesting and I'm surprised it took so long for two "giants" to hook up like this.
I'm an elite United traveler and Marriott as well, so this works out for me. Would have been nice to add a third airline or hotel chain in there, but I suspect we'll see more of this sort of thing in the future. Delta & Hilton? Virgin and Starwood?
ERC: Thanks for posting. I USED to be a 1K in (preCO merged UA) but gave up on them about 10 years ago as they did a slow death spiral out of JFK by selling all TATL and TPAC routes, eliminating ones to MCO, MIA, and TPA that were great to burn FF miles on by taking hte family to Fl and then having JFK services to only IAD, LAX and SFO and LGA to ORD, IAD and DEN. I needed more destinations in and out of NYC (EWR is 1.5 hours from my home, so its not a really viable option, besides, it has the most delays of any airport in the USA). Only options of real substance for me were (and continue to be) DL and AA. Well, I gave up on DL in 1992 (just one too many bad experiences) and I have given almost all of my business to AA since about 2002. So this hookup - means we as loyal MR Gold, Plat and higer have been given the royal shaft! Gold level in MR for SILVER in UA - that is the best joke I have heard in a long time. The lounges will be more crowded, after all if you get gold for free, which means (in USA) 2 for Brekkie, snacks and dessert in the evening, then why work you way up to gold or higher, you dont need to, just buy your way into it by UA reciprocity. I am 23 nights short of lifetime Plat, which will happen in 2013. Then I am off to another hotel program that might possible think of its members first and not give away what has been so hard earned. I am waiting to see what happens with AA post USAir merger. Marriott - why do you keep huritng those who have been so loyal?????????
While it's an interesting development, it offers a lot more to UA top elites than MR top elites.
UA top elites now get lounge access while staying at Marriott hotels (which are often already crowded at best), while Marriott top elites only get a free bag out of it.
Would it not be fair if Marriott top elites at least got Gold from UA, which would provide reciprocal lounge access?
stelzer001, Grand Slam!!
Certainly seems us Marriott Reward Elites are taking in the you know what on this deal. Let's see, MR Gold and above get Silver with this airline, such a deal. But the airline Gold and higher get Gold status at Marriott and lounge access so we can all have standing room only in the lounges and fill up what upgrade rooms we used to have on hand. Even further devaluation of Marriott's highly acclaimed loyalty program at the expense of us all.
The benefit to me with all this is ZERO. Already above gold here for life until that all changes and above gold with this airline until that all changes as well or they run themselves out of business with pathetic customer service and numerous flight delays/cancellations. Hold on, now Marriott elites are eligible to get through security faster in the Premier Access line (good luck with that at any of their HUB cities, hope you have Pre-Check) so you can now wait in the airport all day and well into the night to see if your flight will depart on the day you made the reservation to leave. And the airline Premier's have already learned this so they've checked into the airport Marriott taken your possible room upgrade that you will need due to the flight being cancelled and will be waiving to you from the CL, all without ever having spent a night in a Marriott in their life.
Best line in the article is "On one hand, the airlines want to limit the amount of people that have elite status so those that do will feel special,". Anyone here believe that for a second? Let's see, use the right credit card and bingo, Premier Access which used to be limited to those who had their butts in the seats to earn it. Oh wait, how about spending almost an entire $10 bill to get Premier Access http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/products/travelproducts/Pages/PremierAccess.aspx, or buy your way into Economy Plus http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/products/travelproducts/Pages/EconomyPlus.aspx for a year taking those seats from elite folks who are the real road warriors.
Thanks for making our morning erc, you're the best!!
I couldn't agree more with you however: The United Club access doesn't come with any Premier level with United, only with purchasing a day pass, yearly or lifetime membership or with the above mentioned credit card. http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/airport/lounge/default.aspx
I'll give the airline one thing, they sure screwed Marriott Reward members while keep their bulging clubs free of MR folks. Ever try and find a seat at the bar or couch in EWR before the evening international departure bank, or at IAH in Terminal E or either the north our south clubs in Terminal C, or SFO around 4 P.M., good luck?
True, if you fly domestic. As a typically international traveler into the US, the Star Alliance Gold which comes with UA Gold does provide lounge access internationally, and when connecting in the US.
And yes, I've done EWR and ORD recently ... and I know they are crowded too.
Just more watering down of the program folks. It's funny, looking back over the past year or two many of us here complained about all of the new ways people could gain elite status in the MR program and how it would limit us from garnering hard earned upgrades. Little did we know at that time just how bad it was going to get.
This partnership does not come as welcome news, at least to me.
It looks like we've got two threads going - alas. Here's the other thread: Enjoy double status through RewardsPlus from MileagePlus and Marriott Rewards
IAHflyer: I burned the last of my (used to be 3,000,000) UA points in January 2013 for a family trip in "business First" (what a joke) scheduled for December 2013. Had to get that 330 day advance done or those few good seats are gone by Feb 1. You are spot on for MR. I am just shy of life Plat in MR, so i figure I will qualify for it 2013, might as well get it. I am life Gold on UA, so getting silver thru this "partnerhsip" is really a downgrade. As MikieGinFl said, we didnt know the dilution we were in for, and now that it has arrived, we all need to think long and hard about Marriott paid stays, where is the value proposition, where is the recognition for the nights we spend away from home and family? If I could do lots of day trips on UA (which when I lived near ORD, I did 5x per week, 48 weeks a year) and then get gold in MR for never having stayed, what a deal! So for those of us who EARN status in airline or hotel programs the old fashioned way (we fly, we rent hotel rooms, etc), this is a mega slap in the face. It was bad enough when the vendors (lets not forget, the airline and hotels sell us a service) were cheapening the value of loyalty thru credit card offerings, but now, status is given disproportioanlly to UA flyers to the detriment of Marriott loyalists. I am just so disappointed in Marriott as a company.